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  • #61
    Originally posted by travestyny View Post
    What is this nonsense?

    Quit too easily? Easily mentally broken? Not too smart? And where did these assessments come from? In their fights against...other black fighters?

    You have shown that you have some deep rooted racial issues. Seek help.

    By "dominated by whites," I hope you mean via exclusion.

    Sullivan didn't want to fight a black boxer because he was a racist. As simple as that.
    They were right, though. How can you prove otherwise?

    Look at all those Italian guys who took the risk. What did they get in return?

    Tyson was finished by 23.
    Hagler never left the Middleweight division.
    Robinson quit because he got too hot.
    Leon Spinks was a bigger disaster than Tyson
    Michale Spinks punked against Tyson.
    Ray Leonard was man enough to stand his ground... the one time he should have ran.
    Whitaker did manage his career wisely, but that meant avoiding a living version of Chavez altogether.
    Mayweather makes Whitaker look butch.
    Ali fought virtually the same fight every time he went out there.
    George Foreman was George Foreman.
    ^ Not such a bad thing when you consider: Sonny Liston was Sonny Liston.
    Everyone talks about Charles almost beating Marciano in the rematch, but when Marciano was almost stopped by a cut (caused by Charles' ELBOW) who got knocked the **** out?



    Do you deny it, the best athletes post-WWII are NOT in Boxing?

    Who's the Black Willie Pep? Who's the Black Mickey Walker? Who's the Black Harry Greb? Who's the Black Benny Leonard? Who's the Black Roberto Duran? Who's the Black Lomachenko?

    Remember, even though it's been turned into a sport, Boxing originated as fighting. that's clearly something Black folks have been uncomfortable with. It's just their biology. All you need to do is open up any history textbook and see that.

    That doesn't mean that there haven't been great Black Boxers. Or that there can't be good Black baseball players, or Quarterbacks or Soccer players. It's just not where their skills traditionally reside.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
      They were right, though. How can you prove otherwise?

      Look at all those Italian guys who took the risk. What did they get in return?

      Tyson was finished by 23.
      Hagler never left the Middleweight division.
      Robinson quit because he got too hot.
      Leon Spinks was a bigger disaster than Tyson
      Michale Spinks punked against Tyson.
      Ray Leonard was man enough to stand his ground... the one time he should have ran.
      Whitaker did manage his career wisely, but that meant avoiding a living version of Chavez altogether.
      Mayweather makes Whitaker look butch.
      Ali fought virtually the same fight every time he went out there.
      George Foreman was George Foreman.
      ^ Not such a bad thing when you consider: Sonny Liston was Sonny Liston.
      Everyone talks about Charles almost beating Marciano in the rematch, but when Marciano was almost stopped by a cut (caused by Charles' ELBOW) who got knocked the **** out?



      Do you deny it, the best athletes post-WWII are NOT in Boxing?

      Who's the Black Willie Pep? Who's the Black Mickey Walker? Who's the Black Harry Greb? Who's the Black Benny Leonard? Who's the Black Roberto Duran? Who's the Black Lomachenko?

      Remember, even though it's been turned into a sport, Boxing originated as fighting. that's clearly something Black folks have been uncomfortable with. It's just their biology. All you need to do is open up any history textbook and see that.

      That doesn't mean that there haven't been great Black Boxers. Or that there can't be good Black baseball players, or Quarterbacks or Soccer players. It's just not where their skills traditionally reside.


      You really don't want to compare the best boxers by race. First of all, you shouldn't even try to take it there.

      Second of all, you will be embarrassed. Just stop.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by travestyny View Post
        You really don't want to compare the best boxers by race. First of all, you shouldn't even try to take it there.

        Second of all, you will be embarrassed. Just stop.
        Come on... show us a White guy or Spanish guy being dragged out of the ring because it's too hot.

        Or how about a White guy or some other race winning a championship on low-blows?


        Anytime I ask you for footage (we all know there's endless out there) you clam-up.

        Again, post-WWII all the best athletes surfaced in other sports.

        Who're the best athletes in the world? You'll be hard pressed to name any Black guys. OK, Usain Bolt can run the length of my drive way faster than anyone else. And Lebrone can jump up and down a lot. But the real athletes, who are they? Brady, Varner, Messi, Trout, Crosby... they only top off lists of guys who look just like them.
        Oh, but now there's Lomachenko.

        Why do you make things so difficult for yourself? Stick to sprinting. that dude from South Africa is perfect for you. At least "she" can distinguish you from the 20 other fans in the stadium.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post

          Who're the best athletes in the world? You'll be hard pressed to name any Black guys.



          LMAOOO. Did you really just type this?


          I see your trueee colors shining through. Keep it up. Just keep embarrassing yourself here for all to see


          You're even more pathetic than I thought.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            You really don't want to compare the best boxers by race. First of all, you shouldn't even try to take it there.

            Second of all, you will be embarrassed. Just stop.

            Does anyone actually agree with this?


            I really can't think of a single Black guy who's looked as good as Fighting Harada or Sal Sanchez?

            Can anyone name me one?

            The United States is HUGE. It's by far this richest country in the world and probably puts more emphasis on sports than any other advanced country. I've been to Japan many times. It's, on average, much more advanced. But I really can't think of a Black man contemporary or subesequent who's been as good as Harada. Maybe Pernell Whitaker. Maybe, just manybe Floyd Mayweather. But for all the Black men who've dedicated their lives to the ring, I can't really think of one who's been as good as Harada.

            And again, that's not considering people like Jofre, or Duran, or Lomachenko.

            For such a huge population, with so much wealth, and so many great trainers, shouldn't Black America be contributing waaaay more?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
              Does anyone actually agree with this?


              I really can't think of a single Black guy who's looked as good as Fighting Harada or Sal Sanchez?

              Can anyone name me one?

              The United States is HUGE. It's by far this richest country in the world and probably puts more emphasis on sports than any other advanced country. I've been to Japan many times. It's, on average, much more advanced. But I really can't think of a Black man contemporary or subesequent who's been as good as Harada. Maybe Pernell Whitaker. Maybe, just manybe Floyd Mayweather. But for all the Black men who've dedicated their lives to the ring, I can't really think of one who's been as good as Harada.

              And again, that's not considering people like Jofre, or Duran, or Lomachenko.

              For such a huge population, with so much wealth, and so many great trainers, shouldn't Black America be contributing waaaay more?

              I don't think you need to worry about black America. I think you need to worry about where to find your local Klan branch

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              • #67
                Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                I don't think you need to worry about black America. I think you need to worry about where to find your local Klan branch
                Oh yeah, that makes sense, a Black man walking into a Klan meeting. I would be lynched.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
                  Oh yeah, that makes sense, a Black man walking into a Klan meeting. I would be lynched.
                  You're about as black as frogs are elephants.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
                    Oh yeah, that makes sense, a Black man walking into a Klan meeting. I would be lynched.
                    Stop the race trash now.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
                      Tyson was finished by 23.
                      That's up for debate.

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