ESPN 50 Greatest-No Respect for the "Rock"

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I have said it a million times and I will say it a million more. A boxer is only as good as the people he beat...i.e his competition. BOTTOM LINE. Sometimes it sucks like in the case of Roy Jones Jr. or a Mike Tyson but it is what it is.

You have to rate a fighter on the quality of opposition and who he beat to make up his legacy. You can be 40-0 but if those 40 are nothing but bums then you shouldn't be ranked so high. I'm not saying Marciano fought nothing but bums but to put him ahead of the elite fighters of the 60's and 70's is tough, very tough.

[butterfly1964]

I have said it a million times and I will say it a million more. A boxer is only as good as the people he beat...i.e his competition. BOTTOM LINE. Sometimes it sucks like in the case of Roy Jones Jr. or a Mike Tyson but it is what it is.

You have to rate a fighter on the quality of opposition and who he beat to make up his legacy. You can be 40-0 but if those 40 are nothing but bums then you shouldn't be ranked so high. I'm not saying Marciano fought nothing but bums but to put him ahead of the elite fighters of the 60's and 70's is tough, very tough.

Great post.

[butterfly1964]

I also think that it's ridiculous of ESPN.com to put Rocky Marciano at #14.
To me, he is the greatest heavyweight fighter of all time. He fought 49 fights and never
lost. He should be ranked #1.

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[danny stash]

I have said it a million times and I will say it a million more. A boxer is only as good as the people he beat...i.e his competition. BOTTOM LINE. Sometimes it sucks like in the case of Roy Jones Jr. or a Mike Tyson but it is what it is.

You have to rate a fighter on the quality of opposition and who he beat to make up his legacy. You can be 40-0 but if those 40 are nothing but bums then you shouldn't be ranked so high. I'm not saying Marciano fought nothing but bums but to put him ahead of the elite fighters of the 60's and 70's is tough, very tough.

Rocky marciano fought and beat archie moore, ezzard charles twice, jersey joe walcott twice and joe lious..he never ****ing lost...

[butterfly1964]

Rocky marciano fought and beat archie moore, ezzard charles twice, jersey joe walcott twice and joe lious..he never ****ing lost...

He's not the only one who would have "never lost" fighting the same people Rocky fought.

[Southpaw Stinger]

I have said it a million times and I will say it a million more. A boxer is only as good as the people he beat...i.e his competition. BOTTOM LINE. Sometimes it sucks like in the case of Roy Jones Jr. or a Mike Tyson but it is what it is.

You have to rate a fighter on the quality of opposition and who he beat to make up his legacy. You can be 40-0 but if those 40 are nothing but bums then you shouldn't be ranked so high. I'm not saying Marciano fought nothing but bums but to put him ahead of the elite fighters of the 60's and 70's is tough, very tough.

great post!

[danny stash]

He's not the only one who would have "never lost" fighting the same people Rocky fought.

YOU GUYS ARE WRONG..

YOU ARE ONLY COMPARED TO THE GREATS OF YOUR ERA. COMPARE IT TO BASEBALL. IS BARRY BONDS REALLY A BETTER BALL PLAYER THAN HANK AARON? BETWEEN THE JUICE, THE JUICED UP BALLS AND THE WATERED DOWN PITCHING (SO MANY MORE TEAMS) YOU JUST CANT COMPARE. WHO WOULDA WON JACK JOHNSON OR TYSON? WHO WAS STRONGER. I DUNNO BUT ONE THING I DO KNOW. YOU COMPARE A CHAMPION TO HIS CONTEMPORARIES NOT TO PEOPLE IN THE SPORT 30 YEARS LATER!!!!

[Southpaw Stinger]

YOU GUYS ARE WRONG..

YOU ARE ONLY COMPARED TO THE GREATS OF YOUR ERA. COMPARE IT TO BASEBALL. IS BARRY BONDS REALLY A BETTER BALL PLAYER THAN HANK AARON? BETWEEN THE JUICE, THE JUICED UP BALLS AND THE WATERED DOWN PITCHING (SO MANY MORE TEAMS) YOU JUST CANT COMPARE. WHO WOULDA WON JACK JOHNSON OR TYSON? WHO WAS STRONGER. I DUNNO BUT ONE THING I DO KNOW. YOU COMPARE A CHAMPION TO HIS CONTEMPORARIES NOT TO PEOPLE IN THE SPORT 30 YEARS LATER!!!!

Yes but when you are discussing the greatest of ALL time it is still somthing you have to consider.

[BKM-]

YOU GUYS ARE WRONG..

YOU ARE ONLY COMPARED TO THE GREATS OF YOUR ERA. COMPARE IT TO BASEBALL. IS BARRY BONDS REALLY A BETTER BALL PLAYER THAN HANK AARON? BETWEEN THE JUICE, THE JUICED UP BALLS AND THE WATERED DOWN PITCHING (SO MANY MORE TEAMS) YOU JUST CANT COMPARE. WHO WOULDA WON JACK JOHNSON OR TYSON? WHO WAS STRONGER. I DUNNO BUT ONE THING I DO KNOW. YOU COMPARE A CHAMPION TO HIS CONTEMPORARIES NOT TO PEOPLE IN THE SPORT 30 YEARS LATER!!!!

I gotta give it to him. He's right.

[danny stash]

I gotta give it to him. He's right.

thank you buddy...