The Legend of Computer Fights

[Dr Z]

They don't have that yet bud. I wish a computer could watch a fight. It'd just be a cool tool to play with. Unfortunately things like AI judging is just humans prompting AI no different than you can on places like HuggingFace.

You clearly do not under stand AI. It is here now.

[Anomalocaris]

You clearly do not under stand AI. It is here now.

Just look at the thousands of dating sites online. About 95% of the women on them are obvious bots out to string naive people along for as much cash as possible.

[Marchegiano]

You clearly do not under stand AI. It is here now.

Let me restate my last post. There are plenty of communities on the internet that allow you unlimited access to all the open source models using their APIs.



You go ahead and tell me what AI model you think it is that is capable of what you purposed.

[Dr Z]

Just look at the thousands of dating sites online. About 95% of the women on them are obvious bots out to string naive people along for as much cash as possible.

I am a married guy. I have not looked at dating websites for many years. 95% of the women on dating websites are fake you say?!

AI can break many thing downs but it needs the right data.

[Dr Z]

Let me restate my last post. There are plenty of communities on the internet that allow you unlimited access to all the open source models using their APIs.



You go ahead and tell me what AI model you think it is that is capable of what you purposed.

For what, A fight simulation game?


AI can be more accurate than you or I can possibly ever hope to be when given the right data.


Like I said you do not understand what Ai can do.

[Marchegiano]

For what, A fight simulation game?


AI can be more accurate than you or I can possibly ever hope to be when given the right data.​


Like I said you do not understand what Ai can do.

AI: This is the broad concept of machines being able to carry out tasks in a way that we would consider "smart." It encompasses a wide range of technologies that enable machines to perform tasks that typically require human intelligence. This includes understanding natural language, recognizing patterns, making decisions, and even learning from experience.

AI Model: This is a specific implementation within the broader field of AI. An AI model is a particular algorithm or set of algorithms that has been trained on data to perform a specific task. It's like a skilled worker within the larger factory of AI. For example:

• A language model that can understand and generate text.
• A computer vision model that can recognize objects in images.
• A recommendation model that suggests products or content based on user preferences.

In summary, AI is the overarching domain that involves the development and use of intelligent machines, while an AI model is a specific tool or system within that domain, designed to perform a particular task.


So, again, what model do you believe has this ability?
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[Dr Z]

AI: This is the broad concept of machines being able to carry out tasks in a way that we would consider "smart." It encompasses a wide range of technologies that enable machines to perform tasks that typically require human intelligence. This includes understanding natural language, recognizing patterns, making decisions, and even learning from experience.

AI Model: This is a specific implementation within the broader field of AI. An AI model is a particular algorithm or set of algorithms that has been trained on data to perform a specific task. It's like a skilled worker within the larger factory of AI. For example:

• A language model that can understand and generate text.
• A computer vision model that can recognize objects in images.
• A recommendation model that suggests products or content based on user preferences.

In summary, AI is the overarching domain that involves the development and use of intelligent machines, while an AI model is a specific tool or system within that domain, designed to perform a particular task.


So, again, what model do you believe has this ability?
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What model? The next fight game that uses AI is yet to be released. Ai is a giant . I am not sure if AI has individuality thinking in terms of possession and wants / needs, but the moment it does we need need a hard stop.

[Marchegiano]

What model? The next fight game that uses AI is yet to be released. Ai is a giant . I am not sure if AI has individuality thinking in terms of possession and wants / needs, but the moment it does we need need a hard stop.

You lost me with this so I'm just gonna explain what I do know, despite me not understanding AI.

All games use AI

AI with any purpose is called a model. AI with no model is a vague term that means everything from 70s pong to current gpt. Pong's decision making process is one model. GPT is another model. When you go to copilot you are dealing with MS's model. On meta it's called Llama, they're all models.

These models can be tailored for personal use provided you provide the Application Programming Interface, api.

So when you go to a place like duck.ai or huggingface those models are models from openai and meta and such being implemented by other people for personal reasons. Like an artist taking Dal-E to modify it so that it favors their art style or some such similar.

Which is all cool stuff but as it stands the two major companies with big money and heaps of programmers working on video analysis AI models are Amazon and Google. They have no working model. Therefore, no AI model can watch ESPN Classic bro.





That said, there is no reason why BoxingScene has no AI resource. We could make that.

[Marchegiano]

Just for ****s, I used Llama-3.3-70B as a base and built a model to recreate the NCR computer.

It's super basic but I think it should be clear, if you just try, it isn't actually difficult at all to recreate what has been:

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• James J. Corbett faced off against John L. Sullivan in a thrilling battle of early boxing pioneers. Corbett's scientific approach to boxing ultimately outmaneuvered Sullivan's brute strength.
• James J. Braddock, the Cinderella Man, showed his heart and determination against Max Baer, pulling off an unexpected victory.
• Jack Dempsey unleashed his ferocity on Jess Willard, ending the match in a spectacular knockout.
• Joe Louis demonstrated his unmatched technique against Tommy Gibbons, securing a clear win.
• Rocky Marciano, known for his relentless pressure, clashed with the powerful Max Schmeling. In an epic battle, Marciano's indomitable spirit carried him to victory.
• Jack Johnson, the Galveston Giant, showcased his defensive prowess against Gene Tunney. Johnson's agility and skill allowed him to outbox Tunney.
• Muhammad Ali floated like a butterfly and stung like a bee against Jersey Joe Walcott. Ali's speed and charisma enthralled the audience as he danced his way to triumph.
• James J. Jeffries, the Boilermaker, faced the resilient Bob Fitzsimmons. Jeffries' strength and endurance proved too much for Fitzsimmons.
• Rocky Marciano went toe-to-toe with Jack Dempsey in a clash of titans. The crowd was on the edge of their seats as the two legends exchanged powerful blows. Marciano's grit and determination ultimately led him to a hard-fought victory.
• Muhammad Ali met Jack Johnson in a battle of boxing intellects. Ali's quick wit and unorthodox style gave him the edge, allowing him to outmaneuver Johnson and secure his place in the final.

The Grand Finale:


The anticipation reached its peak as Rocky Marciano and Muhammad Ali stepped into the ring for the ultimate showdown. The world watched in awe as the undefeated Marciano faced the greatest of all time, Ali.

Ali's lightning-fast jabs and elusive footwork contrasted with Marciano's relentless aggression and iron chin. The two champions gave it their all, creating a spectacle that would be remembered for generations.

In the end, Marciano's relentless assault and unyielding spirit proved too much for Ali. The computer declared Rocky Marciano as the winner of the NCR-315 Computer Tournament


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Fun little exercise imo. It wasn't meant to make Rocky lose, it was meant to recreate the NCR so Rocky still wins should be expected really. Means it did good, even if you think Rocky should lose the NCR didn't and so this model shouldn't. So all this model is doing really is doing its best to recreate the logic used by NCR with all its Llama data sets and implement that logic in a narrative format that's easy to read and concise. All these things can be changed as per the community's suggestion. Like how it'd be easy to just add Tyson Fury to the mix. It is easy to take in something like "It's overrating constitution" and change how that attribute is applied in the attribute sets. In fact let me go do that for you. Drop Marciano, Add Fury, let's drop down con a little:

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• Jack Dempsey faced Jess Willard in a rematch of their historic bout. Dempsey's ferocity and relentless attack overwhelmed Willard, leading to a decisive knockout.
• James J. Corbett went up against John L. Sullivan in a thrilling battle of early boxing pioneers. Corbett's scientific approach to boxing ultimately outmaneuvered Sullivan's brute strength.
• James J. Braddock, the Cinderella Man, showed his heart and determination against Max Baer, pulling off an unexpected victory.
• Joe Louis demonstrated his unmatched technique against James J. Jeffries, securing a clear win.
• Bob Fitzsimmons battled Jack Sharkey. Fitzsimmons' powerful punches and strategy led him to victory.
• Tyson Fury, the Gypsy King, entered the tournament with his unorthodox style and impressive reach, defeating Gene Tunney in a dazzling display of skill.
• Jack Johnson showcased his defensive prowess against Jersey Joe Walcott. Johnson's agility and skill allowed him to outbox Walcott.
• Muhammad Ali floated like a butterfly and stung like a bee against Max Schmeling. Ali's speed and charisma enthralled the audience as he danced his way to triumph.
• Jack Dempsey faced James J. Corbett. Dempsey's aggressive style and relentless attack overwhelmed Corbett.
• Joe Louis met James J. Braddock in a clash of champions. Louis' precision and power earned him the win.
• Tyson Fury clashed with Bob Fitzsimmons. Fury's unorthodox style and tactical brilliance led him to victory.
• Muhammad Ali faced Jack Johnson in a battle of boxing intellects. Ali's quick wit and unorthodox style gave him the edge, allowing him to outmaneuver Johnson and secure his place in the semifinals.
• Jack Dempsey went toe-to-toe with Joe Louis in a clash of titans. The crowd was on the edge of their seats as the two legends exchanged powerful blows. Dempsey's ferocity and unmatched power ultimately led him to a hard-fought victory.
• Muhammad Ali met Tyson Fury in an epic showdown. Ali's lightning-fast jabs and elusive footwork contrasted with Fury's unorthodox style. Ali's speed and charisma ultimately earned him the win, securing his place in the final.

The Grand Finale:

Ali's lightning-fast jabs and elusive footwork clashed with Dempsey's relentless aggression and iron will. The two champions gave it their all, creating a spectacle that would be remembered for generations.

In the end, Dempsey's ferocity and unyielding spirit proved too much for Ali. The computer declared Jack Dempsey as the winner of the NCR-315 Computer Tournament

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See what I mean? Now if you agree more with this than the former, good tweak, but if not it's a bad tweak. We just tweak till we're happy or at least done with the idea.

And it's not like we have to use NCR as any sort of base or model, we don't have to use anything but what we decide we should. I'm gonna do it for me. I think I might do a whole interactive historical deal where you can learn about the guys, laws, etc too but I'd be happy to help others with whatever they'd like and I do think it's a cool community project.

[QueensburyRules]

Just gonna bump this.

I'm off looking for sources but I clicked this on a google search and thought, been a minute since we did any computer talks.

- - Boxing can barely stage legit organized boxing these days much less get involved with a computer program other than the Punch Monkey Stats.