What if..

[Underboss]

Cuba's Felix Savon was a pro fighter here in the United States, can you name which boxer would he be able to fight and beat with no hassle?.

[Underboss]

bump...............

[Bucktown Beast]

Its hard to say man...great amateurs don't always make great pros. Just one example is Ricardo Williams who was an Olympic silver medalist and was garbage as a pro. Even top Cuban amateurs like Jorge Luis Gonzalez and Diabolys Hurtado didn't make a mark in the pros.

I fully believe Savon and Stevenson would have made GOOD pros. But great, lasting champions I doubt...

[Underboss]

Its hard to say man...great amateurs don't always make great pros. Just one example is Ricardo Williams who was an Olympic silver medalist and was garbage as a pro. Even top Cuban amateurs like Jorge Luis Gonzalez and Diabolys Hurtado didn't make a mark in the pros.

I fully believe Savon and Stevenson would have made GOOD pros. But great, lasting champions I doubt...

yea that's true, i still can't believe how the U.S offered stevenson millions of dollars to fight ali, he wasnt even all that, ali could take him in a decision EASY AS THAT.

[lidsy]

While commentating on the Tsyzu-Hurtado fight, Ray Jones Jnr made the interesting observation that Cuban fighters don't make the transition to pro's because they spend their formative boxing years and earlier careers boxing amateur i.e. three rounds. They are not prepared or conditioned for longer fights. He claims that US boxers on the other hand are preparing for pros - longer rounds, and more body punches -presumably, while still amateurs.

[Phantasm]

While commentating on the Tsyzu-Hurtado fight, Ray Jones Jnr made the interesting observation that Cuban fighters don't make the transition to pro's because they spend their formative boxing years and earlier careers boxing amateur i.e. three rounds. They are not prepared or conditioned for longer fights. He claims that US boxers on the other hand are preparing for pros - longer rounds, and more body punches -presumably, while still amateurs.

That's probably true, which is why our amateur program has gotten so bad. Kids are looking towards going pro instead of building that amateur career and fighting in the World Games and Olympic games. But then again, that's where all the fame is; it isnt like they old days when an Ali or Leonard could become a household name by winning gold in boxing. Nowadays, people cant name one medal winner in boxing.

That being said, I think Savon would have been the exception. Lots of the Cuban fighter come here with great pedigree and with a great expectations from fans but dont pan out. In fact, in the past 10 years, I think only Casamayor has actually met most expectations. Savon and Stevenson would have too, I think.

I look forward to seeing the newest arrivals when they fight here in Miami in april. I'll post pics when I meet and greet and if there are any questions you want me to ask, post them and I'll try to ask them.

[scap]

It is damn tough to rate fighters like Stevenson and Savon!

For me you cant compare them, if anything you must downgrade them a bit, think about it for a second. Savon and Stevenson hung out in Amatuer boxing their entire careers, basically they were men beating up on boys. Of course they were dominant!

We will never know.

[Phantasm]

It is damn tough to rate fighters like Stevenson and Savon!

For me you cant compare them, if anything you must downgrade them a bit, think about it for a second. Savon and Stevenson hung out in Amatuer boxing their entire careers, basically they were men beating up on boys. Of course they were dominant!

We will never know.

You have a valid point, but they also were boys at one time and were still winning back then. Plus, based on pro fighters who saw or faced them they seem to agree that they were the real deal.

But you are right: We will never know.