top 10 light heavyweights of all times

**Yogi** · 01-25-2007, 04:20 PM

I could never get behind an all-time top ten ranking for Georges Carpentier in this division, but that's just me.

**brownpimp88** · 01-25-2007, 04:22 PM

actually i made a mistake, i'm gonna replace carpentier with jose torres.

**K-DOGG** · 01-25-2007, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by brownpimp88

When I make a list of who were the top 175ers of all times, i look at two things. How well they did at thier own weight against fighters of thier size and how well they did in higher weights. I dont really care if they beat welterweights and middleweights, then moved up to 175. Either way this is my list.

1. Ezzard Charles
2. Gene Tunney
3. Archie Moore
4. Michael Spinks
5. Bob Foster
6. Roy Jones Jr.
7. Billy Conn
8. Maxie Rosenbloom
9. Jose Torres
10. Tommy Loughran

Honourable mentions: qawi, saad muhammad, galindez, liesnivich, virgill hill, DM, marvin johnson.

Damn good list actually. We differ a little in some rankings; but overall...damn good list.

**brownpimp88** · 01-25-2007, 04:38 PM

Saad Muhammad fought tough ass comp from 1976-1982, i really want to put him in my top 10 but he kinda ruined his career from 1983-1992. He should have quit after the 2nd loss to qawi.

I heard he is one of the most exciting fighters to have ever lived.

**K-DOGG** · 01-25-2007, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by brownpimp88

Saad Muhammad fought tough ass comp from 1976-1982, i really want to put him in my top 10 but he kinda ruined his career from 1983-1992. He should have quit after the 2nd loss to qawi.

I heard he is one of the most exciting fighters to have ever lived.

If you can ever get your hands on a copy of Muhammad-Lopez from 1980, do it. Hell of a war. The thing about Muhammad was that you could never count hiim out. He'd take a beating and then when his opponent had punche himself out, back he'd come. Incredible heart.

....and I would hold his later career experiences against him; he was past his best at that point and those losses shouldn't count against him. When ranking a fighter, take his best......not his post-prime losses.

**SABBATH** · 01-25-2007, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by K-DOGG

If you can ever get your hands on a copy of Muhammad-Lopez from 1980, do it. Hell of a war. The thing about Muhammad was that you could never count hiim out. He'd take a beating and then when his opponent had punche himself out, back he'd come. Incredible heart.

You got your money's worth with a Saad Muhammad fight but unfortunately Saad went to the well one too many times. Too many brink of defeat tough fights will catch up to any fighter and it did for Saad by the time of the first Qawi fight.

**brownpimp88** · 01-25-2007, 04:48 PM

The thing i like about the light heavyweight division is that there is always talent in it. There are periods in which the heavyweight division is virtually dead but this never happens with the guys at 175. IMO, the 175 division had 3 golden time periods. The 1920's, mid 40's- early 50's and 1975-1985 was awesome too. During those 10 years you had qawi, eddie mustafa, rossman, spinks, marvin johnson, victor emilio galindez, and a bunch of contenders.

IMO, saad fought better comp as champ than spinks did. He had 9 title defences against tough ass fighters, you have to respect that.

**K-DOGG** · 01-25-2007, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by SABBATH

You got your money's worth with a Saad Muhammad fight but unfortunately Saad went to the well one too many times. Too many brink of defeat tough fights will catch up to any fighter and it did for Saad by the time of the first Qawi fight.

Yeah, no doubt. Still, the sport could use more blood and guts come-back-from-the-brink-of-destruction fighters. You can't not love them.

**K-DOGG** · 01-25-2007, 04:59 PM

Off Topic, SABBATH; but is that you in your Avie?

top 10 light heavyweights of all times