Who could beat a prime George Foreman?

[joelouisbarrow]

My top 10 is based on how good they are and how long of a title reign they had. I dont get why some people make frazier, holy and tyson as borderline and yet sonny liston is automatically top 10. Liston was champ for 15 minutes, his big wins are cleveland willams and floyd patterson, its not like his resume is incredible. This is my top 10 based on accomplishments and how good they are.

1.Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Larry Holmes
4. George Foreman
5. Lennox Lewis
6. Rocky Marciano
7. Joe Frazier
8. Evander Holyfield
9. Sonny Liston
10. Mike Tyson

Dempsey beat willard, firpo and sharkey. Yeah what a great resume for top 5. His best wins are gibbons and carpentier, two guys that are the same size as joe calzaghe.

dissing dempsey again young man...tut tut tut

who did larry holmes beat....a finished ali, a mini me frazier, randall tex cobb, cooney ( the great white dopes ) ..not a great resumeeither..berbick and witherspoon were not that great imo

[SABBATH]

My top 10 is based on how good they are and how long of a title reign they had. I dont get why some people make frazier, holy and tyson as borderline and yet sonny liston is automatically top 10. Liston was champ for 15 minutes, his big wins are cleveland willams and floyd patterson, its not like his resume is incredible. This is my top 10 based on accomplishments and how good they are.

1.Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Larry Holmes
4. George Foreman
5. Lennox Lewis
6. Rocky Marciano
7. Joe Frazier
8. Evander Holyfield
9. Sonny Liston
10. Mike Tyson

Dempsey beat willard, firpo and sharkey. Yeah what a great resume for top 5. His best wins are gibbons and carpentier, two guys that are the same size as joe calzaghe.

Our lists are identical although the order is very close but slightly different.

[brownpimp88]

i liked frazier..i loved his swarming style BUT apart from ali and foreman who did he really fight ?...a blown up light heavy in foster...ellis and quarry who were only average imo and a handfull of non en****** ( i cant even think of their names )....i always rated holyfield even back when he was a cruiser

who did dempsey fight, a blown up carpentier and gibbons, yeah thats what i thought. The truth is, besides ali, no one really fought great competition.

[brownpimp88]

Our lists are identical although the order is very close but slightly different.

that is cuz we actually use logic, could u post ur list just for fun.

[joelouisbarrow]

who did dempsey fight, a blown up carpentier and gibbons, yeah thats what i thought. The truth is, besides ali, no one really fought great competition.

yet all your arguments against louis, dempsey etc seem to stem from their lack of quality opposition BUT your arguments for lewis, holmes etc comes from their supposedly better opposition BUT then you say ali was the only heavy to have quality opposition..im confused

[brownpimp88]

dissing dempsey again young man...tut tut tut

who did larry holmes beat....a finished ali, a mini me frazier, randall tex cobb, cooney ( the great white dopes ) ..not a great resumeeither..berbick and witherspoon were not that great imo

20 title defences> 6

[SABBATH]

that is cuz we actually use logic, could u post ur list just for fun.

This is off the top of my head. With some thought I might reverse some of the orders except for #1 & #2. Dempsey might creep in there somewhere but no higher than 9th IMO.

1) MUHAMMAD ALI
2) JOE LOUIS
3) SONNY LISTON
4) GEORGE FOREMAN
5) JOE FRAZIER
6) LARRY HOLMES
7) EVANDER HOLYFIELD
8) LENNOX LEWIS
9) ROCKY MARCIANO
10) MIKE TYSON

[brownpimp88]

yet all your arguments against louis, dempsey etc seem to stem from their lack of quality opposition BUT your arguments for lewis, holmes etc comes from their supposedly better opposition BUT then you say ali was the only heavy to have quality opposition..im confused

Ali beat liston, foreman, frazier, patterson,norton, foster, terrell and many other good fighters. There is no doubt he is better than joe louis.

[brownpimp88]

This is off the top of my head. With some thought I might reverse some of the orders except for #1 & #2. Dempsey might creep in there somewhere but no higher than 9th IMO.

1) MUHAMMAD ALI
2) JOE LOUIS
3) SONNY LISTON
4) GEORGE FOREMAN
5) JOE FRAZIER
6) LARRY HOLMES
7) EVANDER HOLYFIELD
8) LENNOX LEWIS
9) ROCKY MARCIANO
10) MIKE TYSON

Damn thats prolly better than my list, props. Both of us realize that jack johnson and jack dempsey had extremely weak competiton, the others just wont get it, its sad.

[joelouisbarrow]

20 title defences> 6

and of those 20 how many were any good ?....2, 3 maybe