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  • Emon723
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    Tito and Tszyu: will they come back

    Great fighters comeback so as not to be remembered in their humilihating losses, such were the case of Dela hoya and roy jones, even hopkins comes back from 2 losses to taylor to moved up and beat Light HW champ Tarver, el feroz Vargas is looking for a farewell bout vs Mayorga to redeem himself from 2 KO losses to Mosley, what about tito trinidad and Kostya Tszyu? similarly, both last fought in 2005, and if they will never fight again, people will remember them in their last fight, tito from a one sided beating winky gave him while Tszyu from sitting in his stool against hatton.
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    #2
    Originally posted by Emon723
    Great fighters comeback so as not to be remembered in their humilihating losses, such were the case of Dela hoya and roy jones, even hopkins comes back from 2 losses to taylor to moved up and beat Light HW champ Tarver, el feroz Vargas is looking for a farewell bout vs Mayorga to redeem himself from 2 KO losses to Mosley, what about tito trinidad and Kostya Tszyu? similarly, both last fought in 2005, and if they will never fight again, people will remember them in their last fight, tito from a one sided beating winky gave him while Tszyu from sitting in his stool against hatton.
    Both should stay retired. Tito could still beat alot of good fighters but he wouldnt be the best. Tszyu's talkin 147lbs, that ****s too dangerous man just stay retired.

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      Tszyu has nothing to be ashamed of IMO. He was a good champion and went out the way a champion should, trying against a young lion. It matters not that he retired on his stool; he fought valiantly for all of the preceding rounds and, in the end, he knew when he'd had enough.

      Tito? Well, I think it's too late for him. If he'd stayed active after Hopkins and even after Wright, there'd be hope; but he would only further hurt his legacy if he retured now, IMO.

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        #4
        Originally posted by K-DOGG
        Tszyu has nothing to be ashamed of IMO. He was a good champion and went out the way a champion should, trying against a young lion. It matters not that he retired on his stool; he fought valiantly for all of the preceding rounds and, in the end, he knew when he'd had enough.

        Tito? Well, I think it's too late for him. If he'd stayed active after Hopkins and even after Wright, there'd be hope; but he would only further hurt his legacy if he retured now, IMO.
        I agree on both counts but id say Tito could even now beat half the dudes out there, just not the very best like he used to do! Am I being biased? I luv that guy!

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          #5
          Originally posted by ROBO #1
          I agree on both counts but id say Tito could even now beat half the dudes out there, just not the very best like he used to do! Am I being biased? I luv that guy!
          Tito was a helluva Welterweight, jr middleweight, and a top middlweight. I think it was a huge mistake to allow the loss to Hopkins to get him down or whatever. He was still in his prime when that happened; and I feel if he'd added a new trainer to his camp, he had the physical ability to overcome his technical rawness.

          Wasted talent IMO....really. Now, in the future, when someone thinks of Tito, instead of remembering the guy who starched Blocker, dominated Camacho, handed Campas, and Carr their first defeats, and destroyed Fernando Vargas in a war.....people will remember a guy who didn't really beat De La Hoya and was schooled by Bernard Hopkins and took his ball and went home, only to come back and be handed is ass again by Winky Wright.

          Sad, really. He could have been so much more.

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            #6
            Originally posted by K-DOGG
            Tito was a helluva Welterweight, jr middleweight, and a top middlweight. I think it was a huge mistake to allow the loss to Hopkins to get him down or whatever. He was still in his prime when that happened; and I feel if he'd added a new trainer to his camp, he had the physical ability to overcome his technical rawness.

            Wasted talent IMO....really. Now, in the future, when someone thinks of Tito, instead of remembering the guy who starched Blocker, dominated Camacho, handed Campas, and Carr their first defeats, and destroyed Fernando Vargas in a war.....people will remember a guy who didn't really beat De La Hoya and was schooled by Bernard Hopkins and took his ball and went home, only to come back and be handed is ass again by Winky Wright.

            Sad, really. He could have been so much more.
            I really hope thats not the way he gets remembered! Tho it could well be the harsh reality of it! He really shouldnt hav retired at all or just stayed retired, he has wasted the last years of his prime.

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              #7
              Originally posted by ROBO #1
              I really hope thats not the way he gets remembered! Tho it could well be the harsh reality of it! He really shouldnt hav retired at all or just stayed retired, he has wasted the last years of his prime.
              Agreed. He was "the real deal"; and whether it was his devotion to his father or not, I don't know....but he never should have retired in the first place IMO.


              Maybe history will be kinder to him, though. I could be wrong.

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                Originally posted by K-DOGG
                Agreed. He was "the real deal"; and whether it was his devotion to his father or not, I don't know....but he never should have retired in the first place IMO.


                Maybe history will be kinder to him, though. I could be wrong.
                He coulda tried again with another trainer, i dont rate his old man very high. I still think he has the beating of a lot of fighters out there tho. Anyway, always good to hear ur knowledgable veiws KDOGG cheers

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                  Originally posted by ROBO #1
                  He coulda tried again with another trainer, i dont rate his old man very high. I still think he has the beating of a lot of fighters out there tho. Anyway, always good to hear ur knowledgable veiws KDOGG cheers
                  Back atcha mate.

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                  • brownpimp88
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                    If the old timers lose 20+ times, it means nothing to thier legacies. However if the new guys like roy or tito lose once or twice, the gay ass historians diss them. This sport is greatly affected by old school blindness. I can't wait till those old guys like merchant and bert sugar finally go away.

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