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  • #11
    Better skilled fighter usually wins. And Joshua isn’t Earnie Shavers by any means. Power vastly overrated

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    • #12
      AJ can win by robbery on cards, Hearn is desperate !!
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      • #13
        Usyk ends the bodybuilder's boxing career, he then fades into obscurity, only to be remembered as the the guy who beat an old man & Charles (Walking God) Martin, KO'd by the fat kid, clowned by a cruiserweight, avoided the 2 best heavies in the division, and could never break into the US market due to massive failures.

        So long AJ

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        • #14
          It's funny isn't it?

          There were people on here adamant that Usyk couldn't win. Apparently he was too small and just another cherry pick by Joshua (even when pointed out he was a mandatory).

          Now, one fight later, Joshua can't win. Usyk is too fast, too skillful. Joshua's just a stiff robot who can't go more than a few rounds

          Is there no middle ground in people's thinking? Is it at all possible that this is a high level fight between two of the best in the division?

          By all means predict a winner and provide your reasons. But don't tell me either fighter has no chance in this one. It's a great fight, just as the last one was.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by VislorTurlough View Post
            Better skilled fighter usually wins. And Joshua isn’t Earnie Shavers by any means. Power vastly overrated
            Shavers spent his career fighting blown-up LHWs which is not a fair comparison.

            But I do agree that AJ does not have one punch power like Wilder. His stoppages come through explosive combinations that break the opponent down.

            The problem is that AJ was only really ever able to hit Usyk with one punch at a time, so his power could be handled.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post

              Usyk is good but I don't think that they prepared AJ good enough for that fight. He looked lost and didn't have a plan B or adjusted.

              I am not saying that it will be easy but it is very possible to come out with a decision if a KO doesn't happen.
              Something that struck me during the run up to the Usyk fight, was the lack of perceived threat around Usyk.

              There was no tension in the air, it was as though
              ​​​​​​... This was a "routine" defence for Joshua, another Pulev or dare I say it, and other Ruiz 1.

              Joshua even let Usyk pose with the belts, just like Ruiz 1, everyone had a good laugh, high fived, smiles all around.

              Joshua is a good fighter, but not good enough to take any of these guys lightly, least of all a fighter of Usyk's calibre.

              Now they know exactly how dangerous this guy is, I'm curious to see the reaction from Joshua.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Toffee View Post
                It's funny isn't it?

                There were people on here adamant that Usyk couldn't win. Apparently he was too small and just another cherry pick by Joshua (even when pointed out he was a mandatory).

                Now, one fight later, Joshua can't win. Usyk is too fast, too skillful. Joshua's just a stiff robot who can't go more than a few rounds

                Is there no middle ground in people's thinking? Is it at all possible that this is a high level fight between two of the best in the division?

                By all means predict a winner and provide your reasons. But don't tell me either fighter has no chance in this one. It's a great fight, just as the last one was.
                No there isn't, 99% of people post and pick winners based on biased emotion.

                The sensible pick is Usyk, but to say Joshua has no chance is just ludicrous.

                I am picking Usyk to win, but I firmly belive Joshua has a very real chance, and that Usyk will have to be at his very, very best to win again.
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                • #18
                  Originally posted by PrimadonnaKool View Post

                  No there isn't, 99% of people post and pick winners based on biased emotion.

                  The sensible pick is Usyk, but to say Joshua has no chance is just ludicrous.

                  I am picking Usyk to win, but I firmly belive Joshua has a very real chance, and that Usyk will have to be at his very, very best to win again.
                  Let's just say after this fight usyk will fall asleep easily in his chair while watching tv in evening.
                  I guess nel o got no chance with bivil also, it's that type of thing

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                    Let's just say after this fight usyk will fall asleep easily in his chair while watching tv in evening.
                    I guess nel o got no chance with bivil also, it's that type of thing
                    I don't see them as the same type of thing.

                    Bivol totally neutralised a confident, prime canelo.

                    I think Joshua fought a poor tactical fight, he can change certain things, Canelo fought how canelo fights vs Bivol, what can he change?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by PrimadonnaKool View Post

                      Something that struck me during the run up to the Usyk fight, was the lack of perceived threat around Usyk.

                      There was no tension in the air, it was as though
                      ​​​​​​... This was a "routine" defence for Joshua, another Pulev or dare I say it, and other Ruiz 1.

                      Joshua even let Usyk pose with the belts, just like Ruiz 1, everyone had a good laugh, high fived, smiles all around.

                      Joshua is a good fighter, but not good enough to take any of these guys lightly, least of all a fighter of Usyk's calibre.

                      Now they know exactly how dangerous this guy is, I'm curious to see the reaction from Joshua.
                      I don't think he underestimated Usyk at all. The time it took to accept the mandatory should tell you that. Even Hearn was pretty obvious in saying Joshua didn't need to fight Usyk.

                      To Joshua's credit he stuck to the path he's always said he's on, and he made the fight many thought he wouldn't.

                      Usyk was always the guy Joshua should avoid. He's completely the wrong style for him. There were a few of us saying that on here before. Those who claimed Usyk couldn't win weren't making boxing predictions, they were trying to diminish a potentially big Joshua win in case it happened.

                      Usyk will rightly start favourite this time, but we'll see if Joshua can adapt. What he did after the first three rounds will give him confidence. I'm convinced he hurt Usyk in those middle rounds. He just didn't have it in him to follow up, and Usyk keeps his poker face well.

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