The Daily Bread Mailbag returns with Stephen "Breadman" Edwards tackling topics such as a potential fight between David Benavidez and Jermall Charlo, thoughts on Barry McGuigan, Ryan Garcia vs. Javier Fortuna falling apart, Canelo's recent interview on his split with Golden Boy, Canelo vs. Saunders, and more.
I'm still loving your articles, although you no longer seem to want to post my replies. Still gonna try. I was interested that you said in your last postbag; 'McGuigan is the best of the bunch. He was a legitimate great fighter. All you have to do is watch him.'Now, I grew up watching Barry & I admire him very much. Also, Barry was more of a star than most Americans could remotely understand. When he fought Pedroza almost the whole UK was watching, either at home or in pubs & bars. Jesus, my MUM watched & she hates boxing. He was a sports star that superseded his sport & just became a national icon, & almost all for the right reasons, he was a good-natured, affable, hard-working kid, a Catholic who married a Protestant so could appeal to both sides of N Ireland's fiercely sectarian world.
I remember Barry having a great Physique for a boxer. He was quite short & solid & very strong, but he had long arms & huge hands. He was dynamite with the L hook to head or body but also banged with the right & had an excellent jab. He almost had a 'Sonny Liston' jab, like he could knock guys over with the jab. He had a granite chin. I remember him fighting Juan LaPorte. LaPorte was outworked but wasn't worried because he reckoned he was only going to need one right hand. About r8 or 9 he maneuvered Barry into one flush R Hand & Barry just took a step back & came right back at him!
All the guys that fought Barry said the same thing, it felt like fighting a welterweight, he was that strong. On the other hand, he wasn't quick, he wasn't adept defensively & he was predictable. Worst of all, he never fought his obvious opponent, Azumah Nelson. I would never use the word 'duck' because I'm sure that if it had been left to Barry he woulda signed for Nelson straight after beating Pedroza BUT the people around Barry didn't want him going anywhere near Azumah &, TBBH, I can understand why because I always figured Azumah would've stopped Barry. Azumah had that rare quality of cool. In the ring he always looked totally unworried, like he was having a fine time in there. It was almost like he was bequeathed that superhuman quality as the last opponent of Salvador Sanchez. So, even though I like & admire the man, I can't quite buy 'great fighter'
Bread’s Response: We are in a subjective sport. So my opinion may not be yours, I get that. But I’m pretty confident in what I saw in Barry McGuigan. And I’m pretty confident I was looking at a great fighter. In fact I know I was.
McGuigan was one of the last great pressure fighters. Head to head he fairs well with most of the great featherweights who came after him. In fact he would’ve been a top 3 or 4 featherweight of the 90s the decade after him. He would have been a top 5 featherweight of the 2000s. He’s right with Marquez, Barrera and Morales head to head. And besides Loma I’m not sure if any of the featherweights of the 2010s would beat him. He fought in the 80s which was a Golden Era for featherweights. He dethroned an ATG in the division in Pedraza. Then he immediately defended in one of the best contenders of the decade in Bernard Taylor and stopped him. For those that don’t remember Taylor was an Oba Carr level featherweight skillwise of the 80s. He had a draw with Pedraza and was undefeated when McGuigan fought him.
McGuigan was the 4th best featherweight of the entire decade of the 80s behind only Sanchez, Pedraza and Nelson. In terms of ability I think he’s as good as ATG fighter Jeff Fenech who has a greater legacy because of the 3 division titles. But in the ring, McGuigan was right with him. That would have been a great fight. McGuigan does not have the longevity to be an ATG fighter. He would have had to do more in his less than 40 fights. But his peak was high enough. His ability stands up against the harshest critic. You can get in a time machine and walk through each decade before or after him. And you would have to go back to the 1940s to find a decade where there were 10 better featherweights competing than Barry McGuigan at the same time. If he were active now I would favor him over every fighter at 126lbs.
As far as not fighting Azumah Nelson. They missed each other for sure but he challenged an equally as good fighter in Pedraza for the title. If you remember Nelson lost his first title shot to Salvador Sanchez in 1982. Then he won it, in his 2nd try vs Wilfredo Gomez in 1984 the year before McGuigan beat Pedroza in 1985. McGuigan defended his title vs Bernard Taylor who was as slick as a can of oil then. Made one more defense then lost to Stevie Cruz. For as good as McGuigan was he only held the title for a year simultaneously with Nelson. It wasn’t a prolonged long drawn out type of thing like we see today. Again context is important when he criticize these great fighters. Barry McGuigan was a great fighter.
What do you think of the new Ryan Garcia situation? Garcia says he has mental health issues and the media seems to be overprotective of him but this is the 5th fight that he acted like he wanted then for whatever the reasons the fight wasn’t made. I assume that all fighters get anxiety or have reservations. Can we call that mental health issues? Especially now that Garcia seems to be taking pictures on vacation with a woman. I think he’s making a mockery of the sport and no one can call him on it because everyone wants to be politically correct.
Bread’s Response: I don’t feel the need to have a public opinion about someone’s personal issues. In boxing I see it from afar and it’s really troubling that everyone has to have a public opinion on everything. Whatever Ryan Garcia is going through it’s personal. And for the record I read his statement 4 TIMES. I didn’t see or read him say, MENTAL. It seems as though everyone has diagnosed him without a diagnosis. Now maybe people know things behind the scenes but I didn’t read the term mental health issues. I’m not going to speculate or have an opinion on that, especially when Garcia never mentioned it. Hopefully whatever the issue is, it works out for him. I personally really like watching Garcia fight. I think he has special PUNCH RELEASE. He’s a WHIPPER. Seeing him go to the top level is intriguing to me. I think he has the ability to ko anyone.
In relation to boxing I think this really sucks for Javier Fortuna. He comes in on the B side in tough fights. He’s been robbed a time or two. He’s a real fighter. And now he’s stuck without an opponent. Fighters incur expenses at his level in training camp and it’s a letdown. Fortuna handled this situation with class. He could have said some things like you have. He could have brought up the other speculated fights that Garcia had that never came through. But he didn’t. Hopefully Fortuna gets his opportunity.
This is the reason why I never gave the talented quartet of Garcia, Davis, Haney and Lopez the name 4 Kings. They still haven’t fought each other ONCE! And it doesn’t seem likely that any of them will fight this year….As a boxing community we have to be careful giving out legendary nicknames.
I read another great article from you the other day where you've mentioned about different boxing rhythms fighters take on. If it's not to much trouble would you mind elaborating more on that topic with examples of fighters who use those said rhythms? Also off the top of your head can you name some fighters who could switch successfully between different rhythms?
Fight prediction needed (ignore if you've already answered this in a previous mail bag)......how do you see Lopez vs Kambosos playing out?
Thanks again for knowledge.
Bread’s Response: Watch Terry Norris and Manny Pacquiao they fought off of the BOUNCE rhythm. Watch Joe Louis he fought off of the STEP Rhythm. Watch Julian Williams vs Jarret Hurd in the 2nd round after Hurd opened up. That was the SWAY rhythm applied by Williams. Everytime you roll, you step in punch creating a SWAYING motion. Muhammad Ali fought off of the stick and move rhythm. Marvin Hagler in the 70s fought off of the bounce but it was an off beat bounce. He could gazelle jab you off of that bounce. Dwight Muhammad Qawi fought off of the slide. He slid towards you and beat you half to death.
I think Lopez vs Kambosos has a chance to be FOY. I feel like both of those kids want to take advantage of being on the Triller Platform with all of the money it brings. So I expect them to fight their hearts out. I expect them to push through the 1st sign of adversity. But I believe Lopez is the better and more talented fighter. And over time, class tells. So I say Lopez gets the ko sometimes in the 2nd half of the fight in a shootout.
I just read, in Boxingscene, where Espinoza said he believes that Jermall vs Benavidez could happen next. That one I would love to see, and I’d give Jermall all the credit for going up in weight and taking on the meanest pit bull in the yard.
I must say he would need to be in great shape and have a flawless camp to fight Benavidez at 68. This guy will bring a rhythm and tempo that Jermall hasn’t fought at before. I believe Benavidez is also a decent counter puncher and he has shown a good chin.
My first thought is that Benavidez would win a hard fought decision, but I don’t believe Jermall should be counted out. How do you see this fight, Bread?
Bread’s Response: I didn’t read that but Stephen Espinoza is a good authority. So if he said it, it has some credence. This is a brutal fight. Both have showed great chins. Both have shown viciousness. Both can be hit. Both can hit hard. I think Benavidez is slightly taller and slightly longer but he doesn’t fight a tall moving fight so they are basically similar in stature. I don’t know who wins. Jermall throws straight hard punches. And Benavidez is a young animal. He believes he can walk through a brick wall. I don’t pay to see fights but I would pay to see this fight. I would be curious to see if Benavidez could back Jermall up. I would be curious to see who can hurt the other. Who is meaner? This is a brutal fight. I don’t like thinking about fights like this because they don’t usually get made. But if they fought whoa! I would literally go as a fan. Get back to me on who I think would win. I would have to study both a little more.
Dear Mr. Edwards,
One of the things I appreciate about your mailbag is your firm but respectful critique of fighters when warranted. With that being said I feel very strongly that Billy Joe Saunders will be embarrassed by Canelo Alvarez on May 8th. My prediction is based on his level of competition since winning a world title (David Lemieux is by far his best win and performance which took place over 3 years ago) and his inactivity since winning a world title (breaks of 12 months, 9 months, 3 months, 12 months, 5 months, 6 months, 13 months and 5 months). I know a great game plan and training camp can make up for a lot of deficiencies, but I stand firm that this will look like the Callum Smith fight except it won't go the distance. Would appreciate you addressing any points I've made here.
Bread’s Response: I think Canelo has evolved into maybe the best pressure fighter in the game. He’s walking forward still being responsible defensively, counter punching and mixing his attack. Canelo is NASTY. I’m picking him to WIN. But I would not be surprised if Saunders went the distance and won 3-5 rounds. Saunders is a hot and cold fighter. And he hasn’t done himself any favors since the Lemiuex fight, but as you said the right mindset and camp can overcome lots of things. I think he’s going to fight well. I honestly do. I think he’s a gamer and he’s not afraid. If Canelo runs through Saunders like Swiss Cheese I would be more than impressed.
Canelo usually doesn’t score kos in these types of fights. You have to remember he didn’t ko Smith, Cotto, Chavez Sr, Jacobs, Trout, Lara or GGG. I know GGG has an iron chin so let’s throw him out of the equation. But Canelo didn’t ko or come close to koing anyone else on the list. I believe he’s a big puncher but the facts are the facts and he hasn’t kod his better opponents. I feel like Saunders fits in with that group. He’s certainly not the best but he’s not the worst either. I would not be so sure Canelo stops him. You also have to realize that the top level of boxing is HARD. Every good fighter and trainer gets to study all of your tendencies. It’s one of the reasons it’s harder to score kos at that level. We shall see..
I wanted to get your take on who were the top five underrated chins of fighters who not only ate the punch but they used their chin to eventually win the bout. I remember watching Chavez Jr. walk through Andy Lee's shots then eventually terminate him. Everyone remembers Hagler walk-through Hearns' fire power then ultimately take him out . What are some of your top five moments where a great chin carried a boxer to victory after eating unbelievable shots.
Also, do you remember when NBC would show fights from Rahway State prison? My dad would sit me down and watch these fights and I never understood how these guys were fighting professionally in prison.MM prime Dwight Qawi vs Canelo Alverez at 168.
Aaron from Cleveland
Bread’s Response: You Canelo is reaching a high esteemed level when he’s being matched up with straight killers who fought in higher divisions. Um….I think Canelo is the real deal but I’m not comfortable picking him vs Qawi. Qawi was a monster. Watch him at light heavyweight. My goodness he’s a great fighter. I say Qawi outworks him. He may even stop Canelo late. I would have to see how Canelo does against Beterbiev first before I can pick him over Qawi.
Yes I remember the Rahway fights. James Scott was the fighter who was featured on these fights. And guess who went in the prison and beat him? Dwight Qawi! Cold killer!
Great Chin Performances: Ok let’s see. Aaron Pryor taking those bombs from the beautiful punching Alexis Arguello. Gerald McClellan showing a tungsten chin to overcome Julian Jackson. Chris Eubank showing arguably the best chin of the 90s to stop Nigel Benn. Simon Brown eating some bombs from Tyrone Trice to wear him down and stop him. Mike McCallum stepping right to Julian Jackson and stopping him in two. McCallum went towards the GUN instead of running away from it. And Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. walking through the best punching lightweight of the 80s in Edwin Rosario to walk him down and stop him. How was that list?
I would love to get your insight on the current state of the jabbing game. I guess 3 or 4 years ago most people listed GGG, Kovalev and Ward as best jabbers. Now I think the landscape looks a bit different, for obvious reasons. Who are the best 5 jabbers P4P right now? Is it possible not to have Canelo on such a list?
Also - how important is power jab in today's boxing? Again - Kovalev and GGG were probably the last top level guys who used it frequently and with much success. Why aren't all great jabbers also great at power jabbing? And the other way around - Marvin Hagler is not really talked about when it comes to his jab, but his power jab is probably one of the best in history. What are TOP 5 power jabbers in boxing history in your view?
Best wishes from Poland, Casper
Bread’s Response: Jabbing is severely underrated in today’s game. The fans think it’s boring. Canelo has a great jab. But no one talks about because a jab is not a sexy punch anymore.
Top 5 Jabs Currently:1. Canelo. People will call me crazy but his jab is incredible. And it goes unnoticed because no one talks about it. But watch his fights. Over the last few years he’s been punishing guys with his jab. 2. Caleb Plant. Plant’s jab is his main and best punch. It’s fast. It’s smooth and he can throw it on the move and from different angles. 3. Errol Spence. At the top level Spence has been winning fights with his jab. It’s strong, hard and accurate. Very similar to Hagler’s but Spence doesn’t throw his off the bounce.4. Jermall Charlo. I give Jermall the edge over Jermell as far as their jabs. Both have special jabs but I watched Tony Harrison outjab Jermell for 12 rounds. I have seen Jermall get outboxed for some rounds but not so much outjabbed. Coin Flip…5. Terence Crawford. Crawford is another great jabber who isn’t known for a jab. Crawford’s jab is money. The jab Crawford hit Kell Brook with is one of the greatest punches I have ever seen. He turned a jab off of a punch that was starting out as a hook and got a ko from it. UNREAL punch. Marvin Hagler had one of the greatest jabs ever. He also would turn hooks into jabs. Most fighters can turn a jab into a hook but Hagler and Crawford did it the opposite way.
I noticed you said Power Jabbers. And not jabbers because the list changes. I think Ali had the best jab ever but it was a flicking, off beat jab. Not a power jab. So Top 5 Power Jabbers:1. Sonny Liston- he seemed to be able to punch a hole with his jab.2. George Foreman- same as Liston 3. Marvin Hagler- Hagler’s jab was brutal. Especially from the southpaw stance. See his ko of Willie Monroe 4. Larry Holmes- Holmes had a whip jab like Ali. And he also had a power Jack hammer jab. Versatile jabber 5. Ike Quartey- in the 90s Ike’s jab was feared. It was hard, direct and efficient. BOOM!
Before anyone argues, the writer said power jabbers not jabbers. My list would be different if he said 5 greatest jabs ever.
I can’t even argue with you when you say this is the worst era in boxing history. I just read that Oscar Valdez would not be fighting Jamel Herring. I was really looking forward to that fight. Why do you think that so many fights fell through over the last few years?
Bread’s Response: I just feel as though the fighters of this era are not willing to risk themselves in 50/50 or fights that are perceived difficult for the same or roughly the same money they make for fights that aren’t. I also believe that after BIG wins they want BIG pay raises. And if you throw in when the logical opponent is not with the same network or promoter, hence you have the worst era ever in boxing. It’s a shame because there are super talented fighters that will never fulfill their potential. I was looking forward to Valdez vs Herring that’s a good fight. Really good fight. But imagine being Shakur Stevenson, he can’t get either fighter and he’s been calling both out. It’s very hard to be a HOF in this era.
What’s up Bread? Got a question about head control. Is it taught or emphasized in training or is it more instinctual? I only saw Andre Ward, Mayweather, and more recently, Errol Spence (Porter knock down) use it to get shots off. Also, unless Crawford fights Pacquiao, he does not deserve 50/50. I’m not saying he should take 70/30, but he has one PPV fight that didn’t sell well. He has one belt, and if Spence beats Ugas, Spence will have three. Spence has sold above 250k in three PPV fights in a row. Crawford doesn’t have any leverage in that negotiation. I love Crawford as a fighter but he doesn’t seem to adept at the business side of things. What’s your take on this?
Bread’s Response: Head control can be taught and it can be instinctive. It’s not used so much in this era but some guys still execute it. Tyson Fury is really good at it. He’s probably the best active fighter at it.
You know I don’t even think it’s worth contemplating as far as who gets the biggest split between Spence vs Crawford or Crawford vs Spence. Both will argue their point. Spence will say he’s sold more PPV. He has more belts. Crawford will say he’s a 3 division champion. He’s higher P4P. He’s been an overall champion longer. Spence will say he sells out Dallas. Crawford will say he sells out Omaha. Spence will say he makes more money. Crawford will say he makes more money. All money reported may not be what either actually clears. I say let them figure it out. I’ve learned through the years to not indulge in that side of boxing. If they fight, they fight. If they don’t, they don’t. But I’m not arguing over it. I see too many people that don’t have a horse in the race arguing over this.
Hi Bread-Who would you say are boxing's current "borderline" hall of famers? Specifically, fighters who are still active. And what do they need to do with the rest of their career to have a clear cut case, in your opinion?
One fighter that comes to mind is Jorge Linares. Multi-weight division champion yes, but lost all/if not most of his big fights - although he did give a great performance against Loma. If Linares beats Haney - does that make him a HoF lock?
What other fighters are out there that are 1-2 solid wins away from locking up a HoF spot?
Bread’s Response: I think Linares is a tremendous talent but because the ballot is filled with so many deserving fighters like say a Tim Bradley who is just better and more deserving than Linares, I feel like a guy like Linares would have to really turn back the hands of time to get in. I just don’t know how at this point. He just gets stopped too much. I love Linares’s style and skillset. But he’s just not durable enough. It counts. If Linares was losing by split decision with his same skillset and accomplishments he may be a HOF. But he’s been stopped in all 5 of his losses and most of the stoppages weren't to great fighters. I wish the voters would be more forgiving because he’s one of my favorite fighters to watch. But I just don’t know if he could get in at this point. Even if he beat Haney I don’t know if that would push him over the edge. I would assume Haney and maybe the winner of Lopez vs Kambosos.
Juan Estrada is on the cusp. I feel he lost to Roman Gonzalez but if he’s able to win convincingly he would probably be a HOF. Errol Spence is on the cusp. If he beat Terence Crawford and one of the young guns in Ennis or Ortiz I think he’s in. If Fury, Wilder or Joshua scores another decisive win over any of the others they are in. The best heavyweight of every era in history goes in the HOF. Often times the best two go in. If Jermall Charlo beats 2 out of the 3 in GGG,Canelo and Andrade he’s in. If Jermell Charlo unifies at 154 and gets another high level ko in a defense he’s in. If Usyk wins the heavyweight title he’s in.
If Shawn Porter beats Terence Crawford he’s in. I know people may argue this but I feel like you have to reward a fighter for being a real fighter in this era. Porter has lost some fights but he doesn’t duck work. He’s the only fighter to call Terence Crawford out. If he wins that fight, I think the voters know who hid behind matchmaking and who actually wanted to be great and they would reward Porter. If Beterbiev defeats Bivol and Smith.
I didn’t name Canelo, Pacman, Loma, GGG, Crawford, Kovalev, Nonito, Rigo or Inoue because I feel they are all HOF already.
I hope is all good on your side. Few question/comments for your mailbag, I'll try to keep it short.1) Triller boxing (I saw only Prograis - Redkach fight): being foreign, maybe I didn't catch everything good, but the commentators seemed disrespectful to the fighters, I didn't like that.
Also, and more important, I didn't like the TV framings: they were like a movie, it was difficult to grasp the boxing action. A more standard boxing TV direction would be a lot better, to follow the boxing match correctly.
2) I believe the most quoted book by fighters is "the art of war" (Sun Tzu), I found it really helpful, for the fighter and for the trainer. I also read and find it very good "the book of 5 rings" (Miyamoto Musashi). Do you have some suggestion for books to read, for the fighter? And for the teacher? Also, did you read something about leadership?
3) I heard from a fighter who trained at Big Bear that he claim they did 4 minutes rounds and 30 seconds rest. If it works, doesn't fix it, but it seems a little bit too old school, this system has been debunked some decades ago. Without embracing the whole "modern S&C" thing, you can still pick up few useful things, to mix and match with old school training methodology. Could be this kind of training, combined with the altitude (as you suggested), that lead GGG to be fatigued in middle rounds, in the past?
4) speaking of Canelo stamina improvement, I think is a combination of few things: yes, he now operates in higher weight classes, so his body is less depleted. Yes, he is now more confident in his defense, so he can stay in the pocket being calm, and also, as you stated, in the weight classes he is now competing, the fighters are slower than in the lower weight. But also, since the GGG II fight, he became a pressure fighter, he is walking constantly forward, that is less taxing on the body than moving backwards, moving away from other boxers.
5) I like the Ruiz - Reynoso match: yes, Reynoso seems to hit an homerun with every fighter he trains in those days, but I think Reynoso style matches perfectly with Ruiz body frame and boxing style. Also Reynoso doesn't need Ruiz (even if it is a great add to his team), it could be a great thing for Ruiz motivation. I like also the positive vibe of the gym (at least on video), it seems the fighters are glad to help each other, and are not envious. To train in a positive environment/team, it's a great thing for the boxer.
Bread’s Response: 1) So you didn’t like the Triller production. I didn’t get a chance to check it so I can’t say either way. But maybe their goal is to create a different vibe than traditional boxing. I don’t know..
2) I actually read the Art of War. I also read the bible.
3) I think altitude training works. I think the issue is when you sleep in the altitude for too long after you train. Ideally an athlete would want to train in altitude then sleep at sea level. I have talked to several experts and they say the same thing. If you notice GGG, Oscar and Shane Mosley were all well conditioned fighters but in certain fights they would be gasping for air. I don’t think it’s a coincidence all 3 trained and lived in Big Bear for fights.
4) You’re 100% correct on Canelo. I think his new style is more energy efficient. And he’s also added physical strength. He’s extremely strong these days so he doesn’t have to over move or panic move anymore. Nobody has made Canelo do anything he didn’t want to do since he moved up 168 and 175lbs. Fatigue sets in when a fighter is doing something he’s not comfortable with.
5) you make a great point. Reynoso does not NEED Ruiz. That’s a huge thing in boxing. If a trainer NEEDS a fighter, then it’s harder to discipline that boxer. The boxer will know that and take advantage of the dynamic. But if a trainer is already wealthy financially, accomplished and has a stable with better fighters. Then the new fighter will bust his A$$ in order to fit and impress the trainer. It’s why I’ve NEVER asked a fighter to train them and I NEVER will. And I don’t throw that word NEVER around because in life you can be humbled by circumstances. But asking a fighter to train them is a recipe to be used, abused and under paid.
Reynoso is in a great spot with Ruiz. I also think that trainers sculp fighters in the mold of their best fighter coming up. For example Canelo, is a short explosive, flashy puncher. So I’m not saying Reynoso won’t train a tall, slender fighter. But look at the fighters he trains. Most are built like Canelo relative to their weights for the exception of Ryan Garcia.
Look at Emanuel Steward. Tommy Hearns was his mold. So go through his stable. Milton McCrory tall and slender. Jimmy Paul tall and slender. Hilmer Kinty tall and slender. Lennox Lewis. Wlad Klitschko. Steward likes tall fighters for their weight classes. As we say in Philly, that was his twist. Steward even trained Jermaine Taylor for a few fights. Another tall slender fighter.
Kevin Cunningham broke through with Cory Spinks. Then he had Devon Alexander. Now Erickson Lubin. All southpaws. All talented boxers. All average height for their weight class. This can’t be a coincidence. Trainers are partial to a certain things about fighters, especially when they have pick of the litter.I think Ruiz is going to look AWESOME this weekend. I think some of the same concepts Reynoso applies with Canelo, he will apply with Ruiz.
Canelo is a snitch. Did you read his interview about why he split with Golden Boy? Why did he have to go public with that? He’s bad mouthing Oscar. He’s already the highest paid fighter. I don’t get why fighters have to go public with their business!
Bread’s Response: You sound ridiculous! Canelo is NOT a SNITCH. Do you know what the word means? It’s a STREET TERM for telling on your crime partners in order to get out of trouble. This is the business world. Boxing is a business. In business when a relationship is terminated, often times you have to give a reason. In court you have to tell why you’re suing. When you get fired from a job, the job gives you a reason on why you’re terminated. In boxing when you lose a fight, you lose leverage in your contract. You take a pay cut or you get cut from the promotional company. When you win, you gain leverage. You get a pay raise and you go onto bigger fights.
You guys write in with an idiotic mindset. Canelo is not telling anything “personal”. He’s not talking about him and Oscar hanging out with women in their personal time. He’s talking about why he left the company and what transpired. He has a right to tell that if he wants to. It’s his business. That’s not a SNITCH my man. Learn the definition before you start using that term.
Deontay Wilder is a joke. His career is over. Why would he hire a fighter who couldn’t last one round with him to be his trainer in Malik Scott. What is Scott going to teach him? Wilder will never respect him as a trainer because in his mind he’s going to say, why didn’t you do it when we fought.
Bread’s Response: “One may know how to conquer without being able to do it.” Sun Tzu, The Art of War.
You my friend are an IDIOT. Do you think Emanuel Steward could beat Tommy Hearns in a fight? Do you think Eddy Reynoso can beat Canelo in a fight? Do you think Floyd Sr. or Roger Mayweather could have beat Floyd Jr in a fight? Malik Scott was a solid fighter and he’s a smart guy. So if he applies himself why can’t he be a good trainer? I’m confused. Also who said Wilder is hiring him as his head trainer? Maybe they are just working out. Maybe they are just getting some work in. Fighters workout all the time. You guys see something on the internet and go crazy.
I can’t understand why so many people have these sculpted opinions on who can and can’t be a good trainer. It takes intelligence. It takes understanding of boxing. It takes the ability to articulate boxing, so the fighter can apply it. It takes hard work. We have seen more than enough non fighters, average fighters, below average fighters and journeyman level fighters be successful trainers. They come from all backgrounds and walks of life. Just like we have seen some very good fighters be good trainers and then some very good and great fighters be not so good trainers. Scott losing to Wilder in a fight, has nothing to do with his boxing acumen as far as training. Stop being so fast to criticize. You’re going to be stuck on that COUCH forever. Doers> Critics
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