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  • Haymon or Showtime lying with their fighters fight night weight.

    Hi guys. This is a thread for rational people and not ****** haters. If you feel like insulting first without even thinking, please get outta here. Thanks.

    Erislandy Lara is known for rehydrating between 166 and 171. On his last fight against Vanes, they said Lara's fight night weight was 160. Strange...

    Now they claim Charlo and Williams were 158 and 159 respectively.



    WTF is going on? Charlo looked HUGE and:

    * 158 is what most WW weigh.
    * He was at 170 for a fight on december 2014. It's clear that was his real weight back in the day. No way he lost 12 pounds...

    I understand that fight night weight has become an issue lately, and fighters/promoters are hiding them. But lying about them? Mayweather style I guess.

    Source: past fight night weights of Lara and Charlo.

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  • #2
    Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
    Hi guys. This is a thread for rational people and not ****** haters. If you feel like insulting first without even thinking, please get outta here. Thanks.

    Erislandy Lara is known for rehydrating between 166 and 171. On his last fight against Vanes, they said Lara's fight night weight was 160. Strange...

    Now they claim Charlo and Williams were 158 and 159 respectively.



    WTF is going on? Charlo looked HUGE and:

    * 158 is what most WW weigh.
    * He was at 170 for a fight on december 2014. It's clear that was his real weight back in the day. No way he lost 12 pounds...

    I understand that fight night weight has become an issue lately, and fighters/promoters are hiding them. But lying about them? Mayweather style I guess.

    Source: past fight night weights of Lara and Charlo.

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    As long as guys make the contracted weight, why is it a big deal what their fight night weight is?
    Usually the more weight they put on the slower, and weaker they become.
    It's not the big advantage you think it is.

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    • #3
      Doesn't the IBF have a rule where you can't rehydrate more than 10lbs though?

      Those fight night weights do seem a bit lower than usual, but if the IBF have that rule in place then maybe they're being a bit more cautious with the rehydration.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
        Doesn't the IBF have a rule where you can't rehydrate more than 10lbs though?

        Those fight night weights do seem a bit lower than usual, but if the IBF have that rule in place then maybe they're being a bit more cautious with the rehydration.
        No. Let me explain it to you.

        The IBF has a second day weigh in (you are weighed the MORNING of the fight) and you're not allowed to be over 10 pounds of the original weight. But you can keep gaining weight during that day.

        For example the IBF fight between Golovkin and Lemieux had Lemieux weighin 175 pounds at fight night.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JrRod View Post
          As long as guys make the contracted weight, why is it a big deal what their fight night weight is?
          Usually the more weight they put on the slower, and weaker they become.
          It's not the big advantage you think it is.
          It is a big deal because they don't punch with the weigh they had on the weigh in. They punch with the weigh they have on fight night. 70% of our bodies are water. Our muscles and everything have water, it's not just "water". It adds to the strenght.

          Other reason why it matters it's because it's used in negotiations when stablishing a CW between two fighters.

          Or it let us raise an eyebrow when some fighter cuts 20 pounds like it's nothing (they might be using peds).

          If it wasn't a big deal, everyone would show their fight night weights just like they show the weigh in.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
            It is a big deal because they don't punch with the weigh they had on the weigh in. They punch with the weigh they have on fight night. 70% of our bodies are water. Our muscles and everything have water, it's not just "water". It adds to the strenght.

            Other reason why it matters it's because it's used in negotiations when stablishing a CW between two fighters.

            Or it let us raise an eyebrow when some fighter cuts 20 pounds like it's nothing (they might be using peds).

            If it wasn't a big deal, everyone would show their fight night weights just like they show the weigh in.

            Most guys put on weight after fight night, and it's usually never a big deal unless the guy a person likes loses and then it becomes a convenient excuse. The best fighters in the world, usually stay around their weight for fight night because the extra weight on fight night hinders more than it helps.

            Marquez, Pacquiao, Mayweather, B-Hop, these guys were never far from the weight they fought at.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JrRod View Post
              Most guys put on weight after fight night, and it's usually never a big deal unless the guy a person likes loses and then it becomes a convenient excuse. The best fighters in the world, usually stay around their weight for fight night because the extra weight on fight night hinders more than it helps.

              Marquez, Pacquiao, Mayweather, B-Hop, these guys were never far from the weight they fought at.
              You are missing the whole point of the thread.

              They are lying about the fight night weight of their fighters and I just wanna debate it. I'm not acussing anyone of winning because of weight.

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              • #8
                Something was up with the scale. They had Mares at 130 and Cuellar at 128.5!? That's Rigo size, this guy looks 2 division bigger

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
                  You are missing the whole point of the thread.

                  They are lying about the fight night weight of their fighters and I just wanna debate it. I'm not accusing anyone of winning because of weight.
                  Why would they lie?
                  Why cover up something so insignificant?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
                    No. Let me explain it to you.

                    The IBF has a second day weigh in (you are weighed the MORNING of the fight) and you're not allowed to be over 10 pounds of the original weight. But you can keep gaining weight during that day.

                    For example the IBF fight between Golovkin and Lemieux had Lemieux weighin 175 pounds at fight night.
                    Ahh that makes sense.

                    I always wondered that because Brook looked far more than 10lbs bigger for his WW fights when he gets in the ring.

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