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  • How does A Cotto victory enhance Floyd's Legacy?

    Just to change up from all the PPV numbers debate



    People say that what Cotto represents is the most legitimate threat Floyd has faced in the last 6 years


    On paper that maybe true.


    But hypothetically speaking, what if Floyd makes him look like Baldomir or even scores a Tko in a one sided fight as there is a possibility that he might?

    Before any of you start attacking me about not wanting my hero Floyd to fight Cotto, I want the fight to happen so all the talk can stop BUT while it's not happening lets get things clear. Usually when Floyd is the favorite to win and when no upsets happen and he wins like he won against Hatton........breakouts of overrated, past his prime come out.

    A victory over a Top 10 P4P, 44-0, 2-division champion was criticized. A guy who actually beat a real champion in Tszyu to win his title, not just win vacant belts.

    Cotto may have done it more impressive and the perception is that he is a bigger threat but what if he isnt? How is Cotto any better then Hatton on paper? How does a victory over Cotto figure into Mayweather's legacy? He won't go down as the greatest anyway. [B]But for him to get any type of LEGACY ENHANCING credit, the victory would have to be the equivalent of Ali beating Frazier or Leonard beating Hearns. Does Cotto represent all that? If he doesn't, what's the problem with Floyd cashing in and going after the big money rematches (hatton/Dlhoya) and fighting Cotto at a later time? Is it because Cotto fans are affraid that he might lose to someone else and therefore they're in a rush to get him in the ring with Floyd?
    Last edited by Vladimir303; 05-31-2008, 06:59 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by vladimir303 View Post
    People say that what Cotto represents is the most legitimate threat Floyd has faced in the last 6 years


    On paper that maybe true.


    But hypothetically speaking, what if Floyd makes him look like Baldomir or even scores a Tko in a one sided fight as there is a possibility that he might?

    See before any of you start attacking me about not wanting my hero Floyd to fight Cotto, I want the fight to happen so all the talk can stop BUT while it's not happening lets get things clear. Usually when Floyd is the favorite to win and when no upsets happen and he wins like he won against Hatton........breakouts of overrated, past his prime come out.

    A victory over a Top 10 P4P, 44-0, 2-division champion was criticized. A guy who actually beat a real champion in Tszyu to win his title, not just win vacant belts.

    Cotto may have done it more impressive and the perception is that he is a bigger threat but what if he isnt? How is Cotto any better then Hatton on paper? How does a victory over Cotto figure into Mayweather's legacy? He won't go down as the greatest either way. For him to get any type of LEGACY ENHANCING credit, the victory would have to be the equivalent of Ali beating Frazier or Leonard beating Hearns. Is Cotto all that? If he isn't, what's the problem with him cashing in and going after the big money rematches? Oh yea the hardcore fans.......the same fans who didn't tune in to watch Cotto on Free HBO.
    This is why I want Cotto to get those other 2 belts...before he fights Floyd..!!


    I post to you and others in another thread.....


    My whole point is that I want to eliminate the most credible excuses anybody can have about The significance of Floyd beating Cotto..

    he never fought a young, prime, active, p4p fighter before he fought floyd
    is a credible argument to downplay the significances a win over cotto is..


    he only won his titles by fighting in Vacant matches is a credible argument to downplay the significance a win over cotto is..



    Cotto was never highly ranked in the P4P list anyways So this win is not that impressive.....is a credible argument to downplay the significance a win over cotto is..

    I will say this again:

    Cotto is a good fighter..... But if he was to fight Mayweather right now....
    Only thing Cotto would be consider as is "Mayweather biggest threat"

    It wouldn't be a fight in which two great fighters are fighting each other...

    It would be another...

    "Mayweather could possibly lose this fight..."

    not

    "Cotto could win this fight" Or "This fight would determine who is the greatest"
    because cotto haven't done enough to be consider to be the great..

    If Cotto beat Mayweather right now he would be like
    "Vernon Forrest" or "Winky Wright"
    Yeah he Beat Mosley, but what other great fighters have he beaten...
    Sidenote:
    (They beat Mosely in his prime)


    but if he beat Mayweather after he got the 2 other belts...against prime opponents

    He could be another "Trinidad" or maybe "Duran"


    You see I want this fight to determine something...of significance


    I dont want to fight just prove Mayweather is the best, because we already know he is the best..


    This my point....

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    • #3
      Typical Floyd fans trying to dismiss Cotto out of fear that Mayweather won't get the adoration that they have for him if he wins. Like I always say, there are boxing fans and there are Floyd Mayweather fans. Real boxing fans want this fight to be made ASAP.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
        Typical Floyd fans trying to dismiss Cotto out of fear that Mayweather won't get the adoration that they have for him if he wins. Like I always say, there are boxing fans and there are Floyd Mayweather fans. Real boxing fans want this fight to be made ASAP.
        Dip****.......that's what I said highlighted in Red for you special ed's.

        Obviously you didn't read it and you couldn't answer the question.

        Typical simpleminded fans like yourself. So spare me the "real boxing fans" routine fish.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by vladimir303 View Post
          Dip****.......that's what I said highlighted in Red for you special ed's.

          Obviously you didn't read it and you couldn't answer the question.

          Typical simpleminded fans like yourself. So spare me the "real boxing fans" routine fish.
          You can say anything you want, anyone with common sense can see right through you. It's obvious you want Floyd to take high profile low risk fights so he is protected. When I read your bull**** saying how Cotto has to make a jackass out of himself like a pro wrestler to deserve the fight it makes it obvious what a pitiful mark you are for Floyd.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
            Typical Floyd fans trying to dismiss Cotto out of fear that Mayweather won't get the adoration that they have for him if he wins. Like I always say, there are boxing fans and there are Floyd Mayweather fans. Real boxing fans want this fight to be made ASAP.
            Yes sir.
            I thought the Cotto Mayweather fight was going to happen this year. I was really hoping for it...
            But if there is a boxing God, this fight NEEDS to take place in 2009.
            And I'm picking Mayweather. Call me a nuthugger...

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            • #7
              so so far its been

              cotto hasnt yet done enough with his career to earn a shot at Floyd
              cotto hasnt made himself enough of a PPV star to earn a shot at Floyd
              cotto hasnt broken from Bob Arum because Floyd doesnt do business with Arum.
              cotto hasnt done enough to enhance Floyd's legacy if Floyd beats him.

              what will it be tomorrow.....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by sweet pea 50 View Post
                Yes sir.
                I thought the Cotto Mayweather fight was going to happen this year. I was really hoping for it...
                But if there is a boxing God, this fight NEEDS to take place in 2009.
                And I'm picking Mayweather. Call me a nuthugger...

                I wouldn't question anyone for picking Mayweather to win. He is clearly a great fighter. But I do have a problem with the Floyd groupies who worry about how much money he'll make or that he won't get the credit he deserves for beating the winner of Cotto-Margarito.

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                • #9
                  **** the page long essays horus writes its as simple as it wud enhance his career to the point where he cud retire without question.
                  he wud hav beaten the final hurdle in front of him, people called on the fight, claimin cotto would win so if mayweather won it wud b an i told u so now accept im the best and watch me ride off into the sunset!

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                  • #10
                    As a Floyd fan you just have to accept the fact that once Floyd convincingly beats any of his opponents, he gets no credit because his opponent was washed up or overrated.
                    It happened with Gatti, DLH and Hatton.

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