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There are always some posters on this site who are so ****** that you think it must surely just be an intelligent person pretending to be to an idiot for a laugh. Most of them only have a few posts and I always assumed they were the alts of bored people who were looking for a reaction. But perhaps not, because there are quite are now quite a few threads where people who have been here a while and have a lot of posts are acting as if what we saw last night was a great performance.
Threads such as "Hopkins is still at his peak", "One more round and Calzaghe would've stopped him", "Hopkins was owned" and "Calzaghe is p4p#1" are more than a little over the top. Clearly most of this stuff has been coming from Calzaghe fans.
Last night proved that no matter how hard he works in the gym, Hopkins is still 43. He should retire. Hopkins was a great fighter. He isn't anymore. If you wanna say that Calzaghe did badly then I agree, but that doesn't mean that Hopkins did well. He was terrible.
Let's look at the first round from a Hopkins standpoint: His timing is perfect for the right hand. Calzaghe is clearly hurt. So how does Hopkins capitalise on this once Calzaghe gets up? He stares at him. Then he stares as him some more. I watched on the clock and a full 40 seconds passed between the 'action' resuming and Hopkins throwing a punch. What was he waiting for? I'm not saying he should've ran in throwing wild punches, but at least throw something.
The rest of the fight for Hopkins was a matter of trying to milk a low blow for all it was worth (and then faking one completely in the 11th), never taking a forward step, hardly throwing anything and holding. A lot.
As for Joe, it was even worse. He had something to prove and he didn't do it. Having an undefeated record is something to be proud of, but it doesn't necessarily put you up there with Marciano. Sven Ottke could tell you that. Every great fighter needs a great victory, and this just wasn't enough.
Let's look at the first round from a Calzaghe stand point: All the way through the build-up to this fight there have been people saying that Hopkins had a chance if he could time his counter right correctly. Essentially that was the only punch Calzaghe had to look out for. If people on here were saying that Calzaghe has to be careful about not rushing in and getting caught, then surely he was told the same thing by the people preparing him for the fight. Even if he wasn't, he should've known it himself.
So what does Calzaghe do? The fight had barely started and he walks onto a big right hand. Fighters get tired sometimes. If it had happened in the 12th round then it would be bad but understandable. But that was the worst possible thing to do in a fight where you need to impress.
Round 2-12: Ineffectual offense. Calzaghe took several rounds to get going and once he did so he still didn't land anything meaningful.
If you want to criticize one of the fighters then fine, but don't act as if the other was impressive because neither were.
It says something when the most notable moment of rounds 2-12 was a brief moment of simulated ****sexuality.
Don't get me wrong: if you you're one of the people saying(about either fighter) "it wasn't impressive but he deserved the W" then fair enough. But if you're using words like "schooled", "dominated", "out classed" or anything similar then I'd love to know what you were smoking during the fight, because I could really do with some by the next time John Ruiz steps into the ring again.
Threads such as "Hopkins is still at his peak", "One more round and Calzaghe would've stopped him", "Hopkins was owned" and "Calzaghe is p4p#1" are more than a little over the top. Clearly most of this stuff has been coming from Calzaghe fans.
Last night proved that no matter how hard he works in the gym, Hopkins is still 43. He should retire. Hopkins was a great fighter. He isn't anymore. If you wanna say that Calzaghe did badly then I agree, but that doesn't mean that Hopkins did well. He was terrible.
Let's look at the first round from a Hopkins standpoint: His timing is perfect for the right hand. Calzaghe is clearly hurt. So how does Hopkins capitalise on this once Calzaghe gets up? He stares at him. Then he stares as him some more. I watched on the clock and a full 40 seconds passed between the 'action' resuming and Hopkins throwing a punch. What was he waiting for? I'm not saying he should've ran in throwing wild punches, but at least throw something.
The rest of the fight for Hopkins was a matter of trying to milk a low blow for all it was worth (and then faking one completely in the 11th), never taking a forward step, hardly throwing anything and holding. A lot.
As for Joe, it was even worse. He had something to prove and he didn't do it. Having an undefeated record is something to be proud of, but it doesn't necessarily put you up there with Marciano. Sven Ottke could tell you that. Every great fighter needs a great victory, and this just wasn't enough.
Let's look at the first round from a Calzaghe stand point: All the way through the build-up to this fight there have been people saying that Hopkins had a chance if he could time his counter right correctly. Essentially that was the only punch Calzaghe had to look out for. If people on here were saying that Calzaghe has to be careful about not rushing in and getting caught, then surely he was told the same thing by the people preparing him for the fight. Even if he wasn't, he should've known it himself.
So what does Calzaghe do? The fight had barely started and he walks onto a big right hand. Fighters get tired sometimes. If it had happened in the 12th round then it would be bad but understandable. But that was the worst possible thing to do in a fight where you need to impress.
Round 2-12: Ineffectual offense. Calzaghe took several rounds to get going and once he did so he still didn't land anything meaningful.
If you want to criticize one of the fighters then fine, but don't act as if the other was impressive because neither were.
It says something when the most notable moment of rounds 2-12 was a brief moment of simulated ****sexuality.
Don't get me wrong: if you you're one of the people saying(about either fighter) "it wasn't impressive but he deserved the W" then fair enough. But if you're using words like "schooled", "dominated", "out classed" or anything similar then I'd love to know what you were smoking during the fight, because I could really do with some by the next time John Ruiz steps into the ring again.
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