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Forbes: Pacquiao is alot more technical than people give him credit for

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  • #21
    you would think it was a whole lot of nothing, by responding with.............well, basically nothing--it's easy to bash my post with insults--how about arguing against it with logic--i bet you can't toprank and whoever the other ****** is who commented--lol--

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    • #22
      well hes a lot more technical than he used to be thats for sure. but i refuse to call him a tech specialist until i see him in the ring who will actually put those skills to the test. clottey/margarito/mosely aint it.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Dirt View Post
        lol. A wall that was.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by pbftxrs316 View Post
          manny is great at what he does, but his style fools people to believe that he is a technician in the ring--the reason why it seems like he is more technical than people give him credit for is because he developed a right hand some--not as good as people think, but some--he moves around good against people who don't move against him--

          when cotto started to move around, manny started missing him like crazy--this is manny's fault for not fighting guys who move well in the ring--which is why i feel he didn't fight zaheer rahim also--manny has improved, no doubt, but it's all smoke and mirrors at this point--let's see how handles mosley if mosley actually boxes with him for a few rounds--

          manny's feints and all are just a trick to get his opponents to engage him so he can drag them into a dogfight--he gets caught flush a lot--and when he does, his offensive arsenal takes over and this is where he flourishes at--his last 5 opponents didn't move except cotto in the later rounds, so of course he'll offset them and keep them confused when he moves around them--

          if you watch how he works the mitts with roach, roach tries to make him into a counterpuncher, and it looks good when roach throws a cross at him and manny ducks it to counter to the body--that's what he does with the mitts though--manny doesn't do it in the fight though--his movement is what makes his punches look wild and sloppy at times, because he's coming in as a boxer with his movement but his balance is vulnerable--he's a come forward and jump back fighter--that will get him killed fighting floyd because floyd's accuracy is too damn good--any slight fake or twitch by manny, even if he feints with it, floyd sees it damn near everytime and he either lands a shot while not looking at it, or he lands a jab and offsets manny's timing--this is what floyd specializes in--he has pretty fought every style there is to fight--manny's style is nothing different than what floyd has faced before against journeymen--

          and no, i'm saying manny is a journeyman--but his style is similar to fighters floyd fought at 130 lie gerena to name one---manny's stamina is his best trait--he'll throw combinations with speed and power but'll leave himself open---

          that's a big no no fighting floyd--his best trait is his eyes---he can land a sharp punch that many fighters won't even think about throwing, and floyd will land it why looking at a different part of your body and head--that's what he's done so many times before--

          like with judah, who is a much better technician than manny is and has better balance off his back foot which you have to have to work against floyd's back foot movement--floyd pivots better than most i've seen in boxing history--round 4, when judah threw a cross at floyd--floyd backed up just a little--judah threw a jab and came forward--floyd attempted a counter right, missed, judah throw a hook, floyd ducked in the same motion and landed a counterpunch to the body that changed the complexion of the whole right--that one move--it's scary how sharp he is with it--

          just think about this--floyd always says, you have to know your distance in the ring--which is knows almost at all times, which is why he can dictate fights offensively and defensively---look at the combination he landed on gatti in round 6---there is no fighter imo that would have avoided that combination--no fighter--

          because floyd landed it without focusing on a specific area of the region--he landed those right hook body shots while looking at his next shot--he knows his distance--it was the best combination i've ever seen-it was a very complex combination---

          floyd is too keen in that ring--look at how he can roll his shoulder and follow it up with a shot that you won't see coming--because he hides his right behind his shoulder standing still and moving just his upperbody and just moving while he throws it---ask shane mosley--in round 9 i believe when he tried to throw that 1-2 combo at floyd and floyd smoothly rolled the punch and hit shane with a right hand counter--i call it a counter off of the block--he has mastered it--he knocked gerena down in round 1 with the same shot back at 130--and floyd was on the ropes where he couldn't move as well as if he was in the center of the ring--it's a lost art--floyd is an old school fighter with new school tricks--floyd patterson did that in his fights also--

          manny is great at what he does, but it only looks good against stationary fighters who just move their upperbody some--

          floyd's upperbody movement is just as elusive as his footwork--because of the shoulder roll--he never loses his balance--and manny will have to keep him off balance and from what i've seen from manny--he can't do it--and won't do it--

          but i give manny credit for improving because of his right hand, an right hand only--being a 2 handed fighter gives you a larger array of punches that actually land--

          one more example--floyd never countered a jab only to duck a following hook when he fought marquez last year---that was round 6--then he did it in round 4 against shane--he's always planning his next shot, no matter what punch he throws at you--he'll position his body to get to the right point--this is why floyd shows me something different in every fight--and he'll land something that'll change the whole complexion of the fight--

          manny will find this out when they fight--you'll all see what i mean--just watch floyd start landing counter jabs over manny's jab--this is what he did with judah in round2 and buckled the **** out of him--many people missed it--i caught it--
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          • #25
            you damn right is was a wall--and nobody seems to have to pizaz to try and climb it--until i read a great response to it, then it is what it is isn't it?lol

            ya'll can't **** with me--and you know it--everything i noted was true---stop making jokes and challenge me on it--i bet you dumbass pacquiao fans won't---or will you?

            try and top it--

            that seems to be the difference between *****s and *******s---*****s come with logic--*******s come with *******ism--but can't seem to argue right, so they'll throw out insults--i just broke down floyd and manny's styles to the tee almost--and none of you have challenged it yet--you better bring in pullcounter or that punk ass sissy puss4puss to try an help you all out---manny is not on floyd's level--and those who disagree, break down his style--it's that simple-lol--

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            • #26
              Pacquiao is gifted techicaly. After the Clottey fight Clottey said "It was like he knew what I was going to do before I did it". Many other opponents suffered defeat to a fighter that was too gifted to deal with. Everybody looks at Pacquiao's great power and precision punching but he also has the boxing skills to win rounds against much bigger opponents.

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              • #27
                Pac is the greatest offensively minded technician of our time.

                No one even comes close. *****s don't see the feints, the foot work, the unorthodox but effective punching. Pac sets up his opponents for his offensive arsenal like no other.

                That being said, Floyd is the greatest defensively minded technician of perhaps all-time.

                That's why the match up is so intriguing.

                All-time great Offense vs. All-time great Defense.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by mesher View Post
                  Forbes is a skilled boxer, he knows what's up. Oldie but a goodie:



                  It's funny how so many internet experts call Pac's style amateur based on how crazy his punches look and how unorthodox he his in the ring. Pac's boxing ability is WAY underrated, he knows how to set up his attacks and isn't scared to put more than two punches together. His defence is better than most, it can look as though he has no defense when he's just setting the other guy up for a big shot.
                  If you think *****iao has some defence you are ******ed.The bugger cant even move his head and he gets busted up everytime he steps into the ring.As for boxing skills I havent seen any,he's just carefully matched that's all.He's fast yes but that's all,he fights guys with sticky feet.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Jakutindi Wauya View Post
                    If you think *****iao has some defence you are ******ed.The bugger cant even move his head and he gets busted up everytime he steps into the ring.As for boxing skills I havent seen any,he's just carefully matched that's all.He's fast yes but that's all,he fights guys with sticky feet.
                    Another guy with Forbes' resume and expertise.

                    Please enlighten us more with your professional boxing veteran's experience.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by ThePunchingBag View Post
                      Another guy with Forbes' resume and expertise.

                      Please enlighten us more with your professional boxing veteran's experience.
                      There are 2 types of learning,knowing 'what' and knowing 'how to'.Being a boxer doesnt make Forbes any better that's why few boxers cant even coach and that's why not many can be commentators.They can fight but are they great analysts.very few?

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