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    Good video.


    Now heres my own little mini-breakdown. Enjoy: )

    The reach advantage Conor would have over Floyd would be another huge factor

    A lot of people dont realise how important reach was to Floyd

    Floyd avoided a chinney Khan just because Khan had a long reach

    Floyd even had more reach and height then Canelo for crying out loud

    You will notice that Floyd NEVER fought anyone with more reach then himself

    Think about all the times Floyd was bullying around a significantly shorter armed fighter. When their return fire would barely miss Floyd by centimeters and Floyd would counter off it safely from his range.

    Now imagine Conor in those same situations with his freakish long arms

    Those punches from Conor dont miss Floyd by a centimeter...they land, and Floyd's counter responses will miss (also due to the fact Conor has a modified karate stance where his head is a little further back)

    You see one of the things that IS universal across all combat sports IS understanding of distance - and Conor has a flawless understanding and command of distance

    Not only that, Conor IS aware of all the set ups and tricks Floyd uses...because Conor utilises the same setups and tricks

    Here is Conor utilising the same pull away counter set up via distance deception, that Floyd does



    Look how Conor is leaning his head forward off the center line to appear as a closer target, and draw out the jab, which is the typical response in southpaw vs southpaw or orthodox vs orthodox engagements

    Conor then pulls back and counters


    This means every time Floyd is trying to set Conor up with distance deception, Conor WILL INSTANTLY see it from a mile away, avoid it, and or shut it down - because multiple forms of distance deception are huge staples of Conor's game too

    I can even see Conor throwing out a bait shot to lure Floyd out for the pull away counter, Conor then changing head slots, and then instantly coming up with the real shot to counter Floyd's counter

    Its exactly how Marcos ROCKED Floyd

    So Floyd HAS BEEN OUT-SMARTED before by boxers who were not known for being smart



    Marcos throws out the bait jab to lure Floyd into his pull away counter attempt, Marcos instantly changes head slots then comes with the right straight to counter Floyd's attempted counter

    Floyd was BADLY OUT SMARTED by a brawler right there. Floyd was made to look like a fool by a brawler right there


    We also know with Conor being a southpaw that Floyd shoulder rolling would put him in direct line of the left

    BUT Floyd when facing southpaws rarely ever shoulder rolls

    Against southpaws Floyd typically likes to work behind a high guard, establish the jab, and time right straight leads

    Here are the problems with that against Conor:

    1. Conor is longer with more reach and wont be controlled on the outside with jabs

    2. Conor, like Floyd, is amazing at giving different looks, switching things up and switching speeds and tempo

    This is why fienting never works against Conor, despite fienting usually being the solution against your normal average counter strikers....this is why fighters struggle to ever time Conor consistently

    Just as hard as it is to time Floyd, its just as hard to time Conor

    Floyd spent his career avoiding other great counter strikers for a reason.

    Conor WONT be stepping in predictably to be timed by right leads

    And Conor also LOVES to counter the right straight from orthodox fighters...so it gets very interesting stylistically

    Floyd jabbing would also leave him open to Conor's split entry counter lefts

    A split entry counter left is when you are pre-emptively moving your head side to side (or when you take your head off the center line to the outside shoulder of the jab hand) and then just as the jab comes kwhile your head is off the center) you simultaneously shoot the left-straight, under the jab, splitting it, hence it being called a split entry counter

    Manny Pacquiao despite being MUCH SHORTER with much less reach then Floyd, had tremendous success against Floyd via countering Floyd off his jabs

    Manny ROCKED Floyd several times with split entry counter lefts

    Here was this one too



    Many simply is planted in a high guard, waiting for the jab, blocks it, parries it, and then shoots the counter left as Floyd is vulnerable and not in position to defend

    Conor is a superb counter striker period...

    And Floyd consistently jabbing will give Conor countering oppurtunities regardless of how great Floyd is

    The ONE time Floyd ever fough a southpaw who could counter well, was Zab Judah.... and Judah was badly out boxing Floyd until Floyd had to dig deep to adjust and pull out the win

    The thing is, Conor was a LEGIT amature boxing champion FROM IRELAND. Thats legit as ****. Ireland is right up there pound for pound with Cuba when it comes to pure skill based boxing

    Conor simply DECIDED TO NOT persue boxing any further

    It was Conor's choice not to....

    Conor wanted to persue MMA where there were more options to be free in attack etc

    Conor has a LEGIT ass boxing base, but with enough added UNCOVENTIONAL ADDITIONS, that he could genuinely catch Floyd off guard and surpise him


    How is Floyd going to react to somebody with the footspeed and ring cutting of Conor

    (Even the great Manny Pacquiao was not a good ring cutter - just foot speed)

    Someboy whos long, and fights long and who has more reach like Conor

    Someobody who boxes from a modified karate stance like Conor, that Floyd has never seen before in his life

    Somebody who has all the unconventional and unorthodox qualities to stump Floyd YET still has a legit boxing base and is a superb counter striker

    Somebody who has THE REAL confidence of Conor, who wont be intimidated by Floyd, and who will look at Floyd like hes genuinely an inferior piece of **** - like Conor will look at him like

    People are going to be very suprised

    All the ingredients are there for the biggest upset in human history

    And who knows what would happen if Conor took a year off to just improve his boxing, while Floyd continued to get older

    Remember though, Conor just going to decision with Floyd would be a victory in itself

    Conor landing shots would be a victory

    And CONOR WILL LAND big shots on Floyd

    Floyd would likely decision Conor, but dont be suprised when Conor makes it very difficult for Floyd...or if Conor actually does it - and knocks Floyd out...

    Regardless Conor isnt going for any moral victories. He will be coming to win

    Floyd is the best match up possible for Conor in boxing...

    A passive puncher with a low work rate who CAN NOT HURT Conor, whos a counter fighter just like Conor is (both utilise the same set ups) yet Conor is longer, more reach, has a legit boxing base z but yet is also uncoventional and unorthodox enough to stump Floyd

    Hopefully youve been learned now

    More and more from the boxing world are coming out and saying that Conor would actually be a lot of trouble for Floyd

    Yee have faith in Lord Conor for thou not truly understand what thy Lord Conor is truly capable of

  • #2
    Yeah, nobody is reading that wall of crap. Good luck with that though

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    • #3
      Floyd has OP so butthurt, he wrote a thesis.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Vadrigar. View Post


        Good video.


        Now heres my own little mini-breakdown. Enjoy: )

        The reach advantage Conor would have over Floyd would be another huge factor

        A lot of people dont realise how important reach was to Floyd

        Floyd avoided a chinney Khan just because Khan had a long reach

        Floyd even had more reach and height then Canelo for crying out loud

        You will notice that Floyd NEVER fought anyone with more reach then himself

        Think about all the times Floyd was bullying around a significantly shorter armed fighter. When their return fire would barely miss Floyd by centimeters and Floyd would counter off it safely from his range.

        Now imagine Conor in those same situations with his freakish long arms

        Those punches from Conor dont miss Floyd by a centimeter...they land, and Floyd's counter responses will miss (also due to the fact Conor has a modified karate stance where his head is a little further back)

        You see one of the things that IS universal across all combat sports IS understanding of distance - and Conor has a flawless understanding and command of distance

        Not only that, Conor IS aware of all the set ups and tricks Floyd uses...because Conor utilises the same setups and tricks

        Here is Conor utilising the same pull away counter set up via distance deception, that Floyd does



        Look how Conor is leaning his head forward off the center line to appear as a closer target, and draw out the jab, which is the typical response in southpaw vs southpaw or orthodox vs orthodox engagements

        Conor then pulls back and counters


        This means every time Floyd is trying to set Conor up with distance deception, Conor WILL INSTANTLY see it from a mile away, avoid it, and or shut it down - because multiple forms of distance deception are huge staples of Conor's game too

        I can even see Conor throwing out a bait shot to lure Floyd out for the pull away counter, Conor then changing head slots, and then instantly coming up with the real shot to counter Floyd's counter

        Its exactly how Marcos ROCKED Floyd

        So Floyd HAS BEEN OUT-SMARTED before by boxers who were not known for being smart



        Marcos throws out the bait jab to lure Floyd into his pull away counter attempt, Marcos instantly changes head slots then comes with the right straight to counter Floyd's attempted counter

        Floyd was BADLY OUT SMARTED by a brawler right there. Floyd was made to look like a fool by a brawler right there


        We also know with Conor being a southpaw that Floyd shoulder rolling would put him in direct line of the left

        BUT Floyd when facing southpaws rarely ever shoulder rolls

        Against southpaws Floyd typically likes to work behind a high guard, establish the jab, and time right straight leads

        Here are the problems with that against Conor:

        1. Conor is longer with more reach and wont be controlled on the outside with jabs

        2. Conor, like Floyd, is amazing at giving different looks, switching things up and switching speeds and tempo

        This is why fienting never works against Conor, despite fienting usually being the solution against your normal average counter strikers....this is why fighters struggle to ever time Conor consistently

        Just as hard as it is to time Floyd, its just as hard to time Conor

        Floyd spent his career avoiding other great counter strikers for a reason.

        Conor WONT be stepping in predictably to be timed by right leads

        And Conor also LOVES to counter the right straight from orthodox fighters...so it gets very interesting stylistically

        Floyd jabbing would also leave him open to Conor's split entry counter lefts

        A split entry counter left is when you are pre-emptively moving your head side to side (or when you take your head off the center line to the outside shoulder of the jab hand) and then just as the jab comes kwhile your head is off the center) you simultaneously shoot the left-straight, under the jab, splitting it, hence it being called a split entry counter

        Manny Pacquiao despite being MUCH SHORTER with much less reach then Floyd, had tremendous success against Floyd via countering Floyd off his jabs

        Manny ROCKED Floyd several times with split entry counter lefts

        Here was this one too



        Many simply is planted in a high guard, waiting for the jab, blocks it, parries it, and then shoots the counter left as Floyd is vulnerable and not in position to defend

        Conor is a superb counter striker period...

        And Floyd consistently jabbing will give Conor countering oppurtunities regardless of how great Floyd is

        The ONE time Floyd ever fough a southpaw who could counter well, was Zab Judah.... and Judah was badly out boxing Floyd until Floyd had to dig deep to adjust and pull out the win

        The thing is, Conor was a LEGIT amature boxing champion FROM IRELAND. Thats legit as ****. Ireland is right up there pound for pound with Cuba when it comes to pure skill based boxing

        Conor simply DECIDED TO NOT persue boxing any further

        It was Conor's choice not to....

        Conor wanted to persue MMA where there were more options to be free in attack etc

        Conor has a LEGIT ass boxing base, but with enough added UNCOVENTIONAL ADDITIONS, that he could genuinely catch Floyd off guard and surpise him


        How is Floyd going to react to somebody with the footspeed and ring cutting of Conor

        (Even the great Manny Pacquiao was not a good ring cutter - just foot speed)

        Someboy whos long, and fights long and who has more reach like Conor

        Someobody who boxes from a modified karate stance like Conor, that Floyd has never seen before in his life

        Somebody who has all the unconventional and unorthodox qualities to stump Floyd YET still has a legit boxing base and is a superb counter striker

        Somebody who has THE REAL confidence of Conor, who wont be intimidated by Floyd, and who will look at Floyd like hes genuinely an inferior piece of **** - like Conor will look at him like

        People are going to be very suprised

        All the ingredients are there for the biggest upset in human history

        And who knows what would happen if Conor took a year off to just improve his boxing, while Floyd continued to get older

        Remember though, Conor just going to decision with Floyd would be a victory in itself

        Conor landing shots would be a victory

        And CONOR WILL LAND big shots on Floyd

        Floyd would likely decision Conor, but dont be suprised when Conor makes it very difficult for Floyd...or if Conor actually does it - and knocks Floyd out...

        Regardless Conor isnt going for any moral victories. He will be coming to win

        Floyd is the best match up possible for Conor in boxing...

        A passive puncher with a low work rate who CAN NOT HURT Conor, whos a counter fighter just like Conor is (both utilise the same set ups) yet Conor is longer, more reach, has a legit boxing base z but yet is also uncoventional and unorthodox enough to stump Floyd

        Hopefully youve been learned now

        More and more from the boxing world are coming out and saying that Conor would actually be a lot of trouble for Floyd

        Yee have faith in Lord Conor for thou not truly understand what thy Lord Conor is truly capable of
        Yo dawg I just C/P that post into Word 2007, this post is 6 pages long lol

        tl;dr

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        • #5
          Bro , is it that serious? How much time did this take you to write? I mean I get being passionate but damn bro, this is 6 pages.

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          • #6
            Delusional!

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            • #7


              Floyd HAS BEEN HIT and*ROCKED PLENTY OF TIMES

              Floyd is NOT untouchable, and CONOR KNOWS IT and truly believes it

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Vadrigar. View Post


                Good video.


                Now heres my own little mini-breakdown. Enjoy: )

                The reach advantage Conor would have over Floyd would be another huge factor

                A lot of people dont realise how important reach was to Floyd

                Floyd avoided a chinney Khan just because Khan had a long reach

                Floyd even had more reach and height then Canelo for crying out loud

                You will notice that Floyd NEVER fought anyone with more reach then himself

                Think about all the times Floyd was bullying around a significantly shorter armed fighter. When their return fire would barely miss Floyd by centimeters and Floyd would counter off it safely from his range.

                Now imagine Conor in those same situations with his freakish long arms

                Those punches from Conor dont miss Floyd by a centimeter...they land, and Floyd's counter responses will miss (also due to the fact Conor has a modified karate stance where his head is a little further back)

                You see one of the things that IS universal across all combat sports IS understanding of distance - and Conor has a flawless understanding and command of distance

                Not only that, Conor IS aware of all the set ups and tricks Floyd uses...because Conor utilises the same setups and tricks

                Here is Conor utilising the same pull away counter set up via distance deception, that Floyd does



                Look how Conor is leaning his head forward off the center line to appear as a closer target, and draw out the jab, which is the typical response in southpaw vs southpaw or orthodox vs orthodox engagements

                Conor then pulls back and counters


                This means every time Floyd is trying to set Conor up with distance deception, Conor WILL INSTANTLY see it from a mile away, avoid it, and or shut it down - because multiple forms of distance deception are huge staples of Conor's game too

                I can even see Conor throwing out a bait shot to lure Floyd out for the pull away counter, Conor then changing head slots, and then instantly coming up with the real shot to counter Floyd's counter

                Its exactly how Marcos ROCKED Floyd

                So Floyd HAS BEEN OUT-SMARTED before by boxers who were not known for being smart



                Marcos throws out the bait jab to lure Floyd into his pull away counter attempt, Marcos instantly changes head slots then comes with the right straight to counter Floyd's attempted counter

                Floyd was BADLY OUT SMARTED by a brawler right there. Floyd was made to look like a fool by a brawler right there


                We also know with Conor being a southpaw that Floyd shoulder rolling would put him in direct line of the left

                BUT Floyd when facing southpaws rarely ever shoulder rolls

                Against southpaws Floyd typically likes to work behind a high guard, establish the jab, and time right straight leads

                Here are the problems with that against Conor:

                1. Conor is longer with more reach and wont be controlled on the outside with jabs

                2. Conor, like Floyd, is amazing at giving different looks, switching things up and switching speeds and tempo

                This is why fienting never works against Conor, despite fienting usually being the solution against your normal average counter strikers....this is why fighters struggle to ever time Conor consistently

                Just as hard as it is to time Floyd, its just as hard to time Conor

                Floyd spent his career avoiding other great counter strikers for a reason.

                Conor WONT be stepping in predictably to be timed by right leads

                And Conor also LOVES to counter the right straight from orthodox fighters...so it gets very interesting stylistically

                Floyd jabbing would also leave him open to Conor's split entry counter lefts

                A split entry counter left is when you are pre-emptively moving your head side to side (or when you take your head off the center line to the outside shoulder of the jab hand) and then just as the jab comes kwhile your head is off the center) you simultaneously shoot the left-straight, under the jab, splitting it, hence it being called a split entry counter

                Manny Pacquiao despite being MUCH SHORTER with much less reach then Floyd, had tremendous success against Floyd via countering Floyd off his jabs

                Manny ROCKED Floyd several times with split entry counter lefts

                Here was this one too



                Many simply is planted in a high guard, waiting for the jab, blocks it, parries it, and then shoots the counter left as Floyd is vulnerable and not in position to defend

                Conor is a superb counter striker period...

                And Floyd consistently jabbing will give Conor countering oppurtunities regardless of how great Floyd is

                The ONE time Floyd ever fough a southpaw who could counter well, was Zab Judah.... and Judah was badly out boxing Floyd until Floyd had to dig deep to adjust and pull out the win

                The thing is, Conor was a LEGIT amature boxing champion FROM IRELAND. Thats legit as ****. Ireland is right up there pound for pound with Cuba when it comes to pure skill based boxing

                Conor simply DECIDED TO NOT persue boxing any further

                It was Conor's choice not to....

                Conor wanted to persue MMA where there were more options to be free in attack etc

                Conor has a LEGIT ass boxing base, but with enough added UNCOVENTIONAL ADDITIONS, that he could genuinely catch Floyd off guard and surpise him


                How is Floyd going to react to somebody with the footspeed and ring cutting of Conor

                (Even the great Manny Pacquiao was not a good ring cutter - just foot speed)

                Someboy whos long, and fights long and who has more reach like Conor

                Someobody who boxes from a modified karate stance like Conor, that Floyd has never seen before in his life

                Somebody who has all the unconventional and unorthodox qualities to stump Floyd YET still has a legit boxing base and is a superb counter striker

                Somebody who has THE REAL confidence of Conor, who wont be intimidated by Floyd, and who will look at Floyd like hes genuinely an inferior piece of **** - like Conor will look at him like

                People are going to be very suprised

                All the ingredients are there for the biggest upset in human history

                And who knows what would happen if Conor took a year off to just improve his boxing, while Floyd continued to get older

                Remember though, Conor just going to decision with Floyd would be a victory in itself

                Conor landing shots would be a victory

                And CONOR WILL LAND big shots on Floyd

                Floyd would likely decision Conor, but dont be suprised when Conor makes it very difficult for Floyd...or if Conor actually does it - and knocks Floyd out...

                Regardless Conor isnt going for any moral victories. He will be coming to win

                Floyd is the best match up possible for Conor in boxing...

                A passive puncher with a low work rate who CAN NOT HURT Conor, whos a counter fighter just like Conor is (both utilise the same set ups) yet Conor is longer, more reach, has a legit boxing base z but yet is also uncoventional and unorthodox enough to stump Floyd

                Hopefully youve been learned now

                More and more from the boxing world are coming out and saying that Conor would actually be a lot of trouble for Floyd

                Yee have faith in Lord Conor for thou not truly understand what thy Lord Conor is truly capable of
                Good breakdown, I would like to see this fight happen

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
                  Yeah, nobody is reading that wall of crap. Good luck with that though
                  hahaha, always amazes me when i see the effort people go to to write a load of bull****.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Vadrigar. View Post


                    Floyd HAS BEEN HIT and*ROCKED PLENTY OF TIMES

                    Floyd is NOT untouchable, and CONOR KNOWS IT and truly believes it
                    Its boxing, everybody gets hits. The fact that there are videos dedicated to the times he got hit is actually a credit to him. Boxers gets rocked and KTFO all the time but hardly anyone takes the time to make a video and commentate about it. I do appreciate your passion on the subject though.

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