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  • #61
    Originally posted by IboxSouthpaw View Post
    Make sure to use two hands and be extra careful when removing pacs balls from your mouth lmao

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    • #62
      The guy was fighter of the decade, his legacy will be fine.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Southpaw110 View Post
        by deciding to duck floyd by refusing to take drug testing( i doubt he/was on PEDS, uncle bob probably didn't want manny to lose,but now he has ruined his legacy forever tainted..


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        • #64
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
          Truth of the matter is that all involved had agreed to everything but the extra testing.. Even freddie roach is on record saying that their side dropped the ball by rejecting floyd's request..

          Right or wrong, manny's legacy will always have rejecting extra testing that floyd demanded..

          Why didnt he just take the extra tests,, especially now since he has done it and agreed to it... Whats changed from 09-today.. Why not accept and call floyd's bluff, but manny didnt,, He ran from extra testing that floyd wanted..

          How you can pass up the biggest fight ever over extra drug testing
          the fact that you have to refer to freddie roach means you already lost the argument.

          freddie roach HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FIGHT NEGOTIATIONS. NONE WHATSOEVER.

          His opinion on what transpired is as good as any ****** on nsb. He had nothing to do with fight contract negotiations. that's between arum, michael koncsz, and pacquiao which all took place in the philippines.

          how many star fighters does roach train along with other under the radar fighters as well as running wildcard?

          do you seriously think he would know the intricacies and details of that fight negotiations?

          ABSOLUTELY NOT.

          He only said what a lot of people think, that pac should have taken the test. he didnt have any intimate knowledge of the fight negotiations.

          What pac did was not bow down to floyd's demand. not the testing. it was a point of pride for pacquiao. he was insulted that he had to prove himself to floyd.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Southpaw110 View Post
            by deciding to duck floyd by refusing to take drug testing( i doubt he/was on PEDS, uncle bob probably didn't want manny to lose,but now he has ruined his legacy forever tainted..
            think about this: when ever they got interviewed the reporters almost always ask each about the other. pacquiao is calling out floyd and called him scared. and floyd always has an alibi in not making the fight such as "manny just wanted it for money". i got a large collection of 80's music videos downloaded from youtube, im sure some people had downloaded and save floyds interviews with his alibis. those videos will serve as a good reference why the 2 best boxer in this generation havent fought. even if you yourself decided to write a book writing that manny avoided floyd, people will always upload videos of floyds alibis easily disproving your book. floyd's legacy will be tainted not manny's.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
              Truth of the matter is that all involved had agreed to everything but the extra testing.. Even freddie roach is on record saying that their side dropped the ball by rejecting floyd's request..

              Right or wrong, manny's legacy will always have rejecting extra testing that floyd demanded..

              Why didnt he just take the extra tests,, especially now since he has done it and agreed to it... Whats changed from 09-today.. Why not accept and call floyd's bluff, but manny didnt,, He ran from extra testing that floyd wanted..

              How you can pass up the biggest fight ever over extra drug testing
              i can't see why the earth stopped turning and revolving for you regarding pac's alleged refusal on the drug testing....

              as if pac's & floyd's careers already ended with that....and about then...

              i can't see why after pac agreed to such test floyd won't still fight him and threw so many obstacles to the fight...or...

              the earth really stopped turning and revolving for you and you can not move on!...

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                Pac will have a great legacy when its all said and done....


                but 2 things hurt manny's legacy

                1. rejecting the drug tests the first time trying to make the floyd fight.. That is just unacceptable to walk away from the biggest fight ever over drug testing..

                2. Resigning with arum, multiple times.... Manny didnt follow the blueprint that floyd and cotto have used.. Manny being an idiot and resigning with bob arum will affect his legacy because manny missed some big fight over the past 4-5 years, when he could have easily been a free agent like cotto and floyd and work with promoters on a fight by fight basis.......
                floyds fans would always say that manny had avoided the blood test, they would not rather say that both camp had not agreed to the cut-off date. saying that manny avoided the blood test and not mentioning the cut-off date is not a spin- it is a lie.
                people want them to fight for 5 years now. and the condition that manny leave arum is a condition that floyd demanded only recently. floyd has not mentioned it in the first negotiation, he never mentioned it when he offered manny 40 million. he never mentioned it in the 4 years that the media is interviewing him.
                you should not always believe and parrot whatever floyd' d says. floyd is not articulate and always making a fool of himself in interviews- you should not repeat whatever he says.

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