Originally posted by APPONO ASTOS
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I think MUSLIM TERRORISTS are to Blame for Malaysian Plane Disappearance
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Originally posted by fight_professor View PostThis is ridiculous. How many Muslims do you know - 1, 2, 10? There are 1.6 bn Muslims - the overwhelming majority peaceful. Wahabbist are a tiny sect.
It wasn't a 'tiny minority' that got the blasphemy law passed in Pakistan.
The truth is, virtually the entire Muslim world is a horrible place to be for a non-Muslim. Apostates, atheists, women, ****sexuals, non-Muslim religious groups - all face severe persecution, much of the time backed by the state. Doesn't matter if it's in Nigeria, Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia, or anywhere else in the Muslim world, we see the same problems. Notice I named 4 very different parts of the world (Nigeria - sub-Saharan Africa, Egypt - Middle East, Pakistan - South Asia, and Indonesia - South-East Asia), but they all have something in common - Muslim countries, or in the case with Nigeria, a very large Muslim population. How on earth can you deny that Islam is the cause of this, whilst keeping a straight face? I notice great outrage from Muslims when a Danish man draws a cartoon of Muhammad, or when some crappy Egyptian-American movie producer makes a low-budget film about Muhammad, or when a Florida Pastor threatens to burn the Quran... but when suicide-bombers blow themselves up outside a Church wherever there's Muslims & Christians living in close proximity with each other... not much outrage there.
And nobody mentioned anything about Wahhabism, so why did you?
Originally posted by fight_professor View PostAs for the Muslim countries, most are perfectly peaceful. A few are going thru rough patches but all countries experience such phases from time to time.
Too much hate. It can destroy a man.
Originally posted by fight_professor View PostTimothy Winter - google him. You may learn something.
Some deranged white dude who converted to Islam. I'm sure he's got better things to do than read anything that guy's written.
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Originally posted by fight_professor View PostC'mon man. I'm a moderate, orthodox Sunni Muslim. We have condemned radicals countless times - individually and at at the group level. They hate us most of all - and we are 90% of the world's Muslims - so an overwhelming majority.
Prof Tariq Qadri, Prof Tarik Ramadan, Tim Winter, Hamza Yusuf, Sh. Mohammed Yacoubi, Scholar collectives from Pakistan, Jordan, Malaysia, Egypt have all condemned the wahabbist radicals. Folks just dont want to recognize that or be bothered to look it up.
You cannot be moderate & orthodox at the same time (that goes for any Abrahamic religion). It's like saying 'I'm a moderate Communist' or 'I'm a moderate fascist'. LOL
And you KEEP mentioning Wahhabism.
There's very little condemnation from Muslims, really. But not when cartoons of Muhammad are drawn... oh, then Muslims lose their mind with rage. The tiny little nation of Denmark was facing international backlash from the Muslim world... all because of a cartoon. So when Muslims really do want to express their condemnation over something, they can & certainly do. They make sure the entire world hears them. But not when it comes to Islamic extremism.
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Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520 View PostTake the Westborough Baptist Church for example, it's ridiculed by the rest of Christianity in ALL of the world and given no credence whatsoever. Timothy McVeigh, David Koresh, the Jones Town deaths, etc....
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Originally posted by takingaim View PostMcVeigh was a survivalist NWO conspiracy theorist type. He wasn't driven by Christianity to do what he did.
He was deep into the Christian Identity movement of the 1970's. He read the Turner Diaries and stated them as a big influence in his life. He was obsessed with that book and it's full of Christian ideals that talk against race mixing and the overturning of the American govt.
I think he was raised a Catholic but then became an evangelical Christian later on.
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malaysian goverment refuses to release flight audio requested by grieving family members.
probably dont want the public to hear "ALLAHU AKBAR!!!! AHHHHHH NO I CHANGE MY MIND AHHHHHH TOO LATE I HOPE I GET MY VIRGINS!!!! (splash). "
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Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520 View PostSorry but that's not fair and consistent critique. If you are going to go after moderate Muslims, McVeigh was definitely influenced by Christian beliefs.
He was deep into the Christian Identity movement of the 1970's. He read the Turner Diaries and stated them as a big influence in his life. He was obsessed with that book and it's full of Christian ideals that talk against race mixing and the overturning of the American govt.
I think he was raised a Catholic but then became an evangelical Christian later on.
The Turner Diaries is a white supremacist book. Being against race-mixing has nothing to do with Christian belief, that's one of the basics of white supremacist beliefs.
A Muslim who kills isn't necessarily a Muslim extremist, because he may not even be religious, and even if he IS religious, that still doesn't make him a Muslim extremist, because he might be motivated by something else. The Muslims who carry out all these terrorist attacks around the world are labeled 'Muslim terrorists', 'Islamic extremists' etc etc because they are 100% motivated by Islam & the desire to create a worldwide caliphate, ruled by the sharia (Islamic law).
And I go after 'moderates' because they are the enablers of the extremists, whether they recognize it or not. No idea why you're trying to connect the two.
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Originally posted by The Tase View PostMalaysia is a muslim nation. Its state religion is muslim. 60% of its population practice Islam. Its two pilots are Zaharie Ahmad Shah and Fariq Abdul Hamid. I think one or both of them couldnt wait to see Allah and did this and that the Malaysian government are hiding the truth because they dont want muslims looking bad.
again.
I know im not the only one thinking this and i know this is not the politically correct thing to say but i think that's what happened.
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