Comments Thread For: Kessler: I Warned Carl Froch of Harassment in America!

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Gotta love our lovely american boxingscene posters. They're the first to cry ''baby, man up'' once Ward, B-Hop or anyone (American) is a dirty piece of **** in the ring.

But when Dirrell gets roughed in Nothingham, Abraham punish Dirrell or the K brothers pull another boxing clinic they're the first to whine like squealing women on their period.

Ward did outbox Kessler, but that performance got overshadowed by the cringe worthy dirty fight with repeating headbutts which left Kessler with a ruined eyesight and a two year layoff. I wish The Cobra the very best, he's fighting good competition but the event is so biased it's disgusting.
The US are so hungry for succes (no wonder, not much ''American'' to be proud of these days) they're prepared to throw away what little rep they got left with the rest of the world to get it.

Abraham punish Dirrell? Dirrell was whipping the **** out of him and Abraham punished him with an illegal punch. What fight you watching? An illegal punch is illegal and has nothing to do with rough tactics that Ward or Hopkins bring to the ring. As for US being so hungry for success....which country has more talent than it? Not sure how you come to that conclusion when out of the top 25 or so fighters in the world, nearly half are Americans. Once again people comparing America versus the world or continents.

[Grand Champ]

Again... let's go over the fact that you have no reading comprehension skills (or just reading skills, period).

Go find where I said "I'm not saying anyone is wrong.". Find that post and I'll shut up.

I said "I didn't say anything about anyone being wrong" (big difference). And I didn't, in my original post, which is what we were discussing. But since you wanted to discuss right and wrong, I said that yes, Abraham was wrong.

There's no way Froch could have been "wrong". He can't help who scores the fight for who. Froch did what he had to do against Dirrell. And I'm on record a hundred times on this site saying that I was fine with the result of Froch/Dirrell. So there goes your "lack of objectivity" argument.

I also never said anything about Ward being "right", or Kessler being "wrong". I said that Ward was beating the hell out of Kessler. And he was. And that Kessler and his fans are still butt hurt over it. And you are.

I'm not talking about the the fact that Froch ''won'' I'm talking about the manner in which he won. I'm not sure if you were present here (NSB) during Froch-Dirrell, our lovely americans whined so hard that Froch got rough with Dirrell . Froch even threw Dirrell if I ain't mistaken.

Yet all of these white knights and rule riders disapeared during Kessler-Ward. Suddenly repeated headbutts was part of the game and ''you should protect yourself at all times''

Same double standards in Abraham-Dirrell, same bull**** in basicly every K-bro fight. Double standards all the time. No objectivity, what. so. ever.

If you can't see that something was wrong during the event of Kessler-Ward (Biased ref among other) then there's no point in continuing this discussion. I'm not talking about the outcome or discrediting Wards boxing skills. I'm appalled at the biased event - Which, too, was what Kessler was commenting on in this article.

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People never complained about Froch rough housing Dirrell either. What they complained about was many people felt that Dirrel won 8 or 9 rounds by boxing him. Others complained that Dirrell didn't come to fight. IMO, no matter how you fight if you win that round you win that round. Dirrell outboxed Froch and should of been awarded the victory.

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I'm not talking about the the fact that Froch ''won'' I'm talking about the manner in which he won. I'm not sure if you were present here (NSB) during Froch-Dirrell, our lovely americans whined so hard that Froch got rough with Dirrell . Froch even threw Dirrell if I ain't mistaken.

Yet all of these white knights and rule riders disapeared during Kessler-Ward. Suddenly repeated headbutts was part of the game and ''you should protect yourself at all times''

Same double standards in Abraham-Dirrell, same bull**** in basicly every K-bro fight. Double standards all the time. No objectivity, what. so. ever.

If you can't see that something was wrong during the event of Kessler-Ward (Biased ref among other) then there's no point in continuing this discussion. I'm not talking about the outcome or discrediting Wards boxing skills. I'm appalled at the biased event - Which, too, was what Kessler was commenting on in this article.

Comparing what Abraham did to some headbutts or a throw down is absurd. Other than that, this is boxing and rough tactics will always be part of the game. Got no problem with hitting off the break, behind the head, or pushing an opponent around. What Abraham did is far beyond that though.

[Grand Champ]

Comparing what Abraham did to some headbutts or a throw down is absurd. Other than that, this is boxing and rough tactics will always be part of the game. Got no problem with hitting off the break, behind the head, or pushing an opponent around. What Abraham did is far beyond that though.

Are you freaking kidding me? This is the biased that disgust me.

What happened after Dirrell was done faking his reaction? Nothing. He won the fight and danced the night away

What happened after Ward-Kessler got stopped on headbutts: Kessler had to have eye-operations, see various specialists, he got permanent damage to his eyes, quit the super six AND had to have a 2 year layoff.

Yet you wanna tell me it was worse with Dirrell? Fuck off outta here man.

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Are you freaking kidding me? This is the biased that disgust me.

What happened after Dirrell was done faking his reaction? Nothing. He won the fight and danced the night away

What happened after Ward-Kessler got stopped on headbutts: Kessler had to have eye-operations, see various specialists, he got permanent damage to his eyes, quit the super six AND had to have a 2 year layoff.

Yet you wanna tell me it was worse with Dirrell? Fuck off outta here man.

A dude as poor as Dirrell walked away for nearly 2 years of paydays just to fake an injury? Come on. He's not Floyd Mayweather where he's made million dollar paydays. Unless he's selling coke on the side, boxing was his only income. Highly doubt he would go 2 years without it just to stay creditable.

[crold1]

Abraham was a flagrant foul. Terry Norris had 3 DQ losses for the same thing in his career and could have had more (including Leonard). Ward's are hardly unintentional but they are smart and pretty well accepted tactics hard to call in the flow of a fight.

Froch earned a narrow win over Dirrell in a fight where some swings could have gone the other way. Dirrell got roughed up. Like Kessler against Ward, he had himself to blame first. here was my take at the time:

http://www.boxingscene.com/-super-si...t-cards--22925

This fight was neither thriller nor sleep inducer. It was a hot mess between two fighters whose style choice mixed like caviar and Taco Bell with more fouls and clinches than landed blows which somehow found a way to be intriguing anyways.

Let’s be clear straight away. Andre Dirrell could have, maybe should have, won this fight on the road against the U.K.’s Froch. That he did not was not the fault of a poor refereeing job of Hector Afu or the men with scorecards at ringside. Andre Dirrell gave this one away because he didn’t do what worked best for him for all twelve rounds.

In the two opening frames, and in a gutsy burst in ten and eleven, Dirrell moved his hands. He was fluid, assertive, and elusive. He had Froch rocked and looked like the total package some see him developing into. Particularly in the eleventh, Dirrell battled with a chip on his shoulder and showed resolve.

The problem was the rest of a fight this scribe ultimately scored 115-114, or five rounds to four with three even, for Froch. Had Afu not taken a point from Dirrell for holding in the 10th, it would have been a draw on this card. And, for the record, for Afu to take a point there but not for multiple Froch rabbit punches, punches on the break, or a hip toss in the fifth round, was head scratching at best.

Froch didn’t come with the best game plan. He oddly tried to jab with Dirrell early on, and missed wildly at times, before starting to do what he needed to in round three, roughing the younger man up in the clinches and landing on whatever body parts were available. Dirrell’s good footwork early became a mimic of the unwatchable Curtis Stevens affair of a few years ago.

Dirrell was almost running as the fight entered a critical stretch from round 6-9 and complained about fouls (some real, others imagined) when he should have been firing back. Dirrell landed good shots in every round but also began to occasionally lead with clinches. He was being outhustled and Froch was landing the best stuff he had all night.

It was so evident what could have been after the deduction in the tenth. In terms of intangibles, it was the difference in a low grade and what ended a solid one for Dirrell. He snapped out of it, remembered he was in a professional fight, and looked fantastic. Had Dirrell fought the same way all night, had he used his fists consistently, he might have pasted enough onto Froch to stop him with the shots he was landing. As it was, he hadn’t exacted enough of a price and in the 12th, despite a strong start, fatigued as Froch rushed to muddy, and even, the closing frame.

[JAB5239]

You think it's okay for American referees to be crooked, just not referees in other countries, right?

Your disdain for blacks, Jews and Americans has been obvious for years. The fact you make such transparent claims with no proof though is humorous.