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  • #31
    The ability to adjust, and the ability to recover quickly from getting dropped.

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    • #32
      Poise. Some guys have all the physical abilities in the world but if you cant stay calm it'll throw all your gifts away. That goes for reflexes, timing (which is up there in terms of rarity). Poise goes hand in hand with many things like courage under fire, anticipation, etc etc. You can make a lot out of a little if you can keep your head in the fight and keep your eye on the prize. You know how when you see a great fighter go down yet you know its far from done? Guys like Martinez and marquez go down but you never quite feel like they're done. It's Danny Garcia's greatest gift as well and the fact he has good power can create opportunities for him even when losing. Floyd has supreme poise and focus he's like a f ucking zen master when he's there. Doesnt matter if hes on the ropes, being chased, etc.

      You know who could use some poise? Bute. If he would just relax when they throw at him he has all the skill and power needed to get them off. But he panics. It's not courage he lacks, but poise/confidence

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      • #33
        Originally posted by NearHypnos View Post
        Poise. Some guys have all the physical abilities in the world but if you cant stay calm it'll throw all your gifts away. That goes for reflexes, timing (which is up there in terms of rarity). Poise goes hand in hand with many things like courage under fire, anticipation, etc etc. You can make a lot out of a little if you can keep your head in the fight and keep your eye on the prize. You know how when you see a great fighter go down yet you know its far from done? Guys like Martinez and marquez go down but you never quite feel like they're done. It's Danny Garcia's greatest gift as well and the fact he has good power can create opportunities for him even when losing. Floyd has supreme poise and focus he's like a f ucking zen master when he's there. Doesnt matter if hes on the ropes, being chased, etc.

        You know who could use some poise? Bute. If he would just relax when they throw at him he has all the skill and power needed to get them off. But he panics. It's not courage he lacks, but poise/confidence
        Good one.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by NearHypnos View Post
          Poise. Some guys have all the physical abilities in the world but if you cant stay calm it'll throw all your gifts away. That goes for reflexes, timing (which is up there in terms of rarity). Poise goes hand in hand with many things like courage under fire, anticipation, etc etc. You can make a lot out of a little if you can keep your head in the fight and keep your eye on the prize. You know how when you see a great fighter go down yet you know its far from done? Guys like Martinez and marquez go down but you never quite feel like they're done. It's Danny Garcia's greatest gift as well and the fact he has good power can create opportunities for him even when losing. Floyd has supreme poise and focus he's like a f ucking zen master when he's there. Doesnt matter if hes on the ropes, being chased, etc.

          You know who could use some poise? Bute. If he would just relax when they throw at him he has all the skill and power needed to get them off. But he panics. It's not courage he lacks, but poise/confidence
          +1 for the zen ability

          As for the chin? I dunno. Sure, then and there in the ring, great to have but often leads to dictating the way one fights. I bet it's quite the rush to laugh at your opponent while eating shots and walking him down, also spectacular for the fans but I always feel that these guys that take too many punches will eventually forget how to wipe their own ass.

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          • #35
            I would say two things:

            No great weaknesses and Luck.

            No weaknesses

            Sugar Ray Robinson was widely acknowledged as the best ever. He had a lot of great abilities but he also had no great weakness that could be exploited. I think of it this way: The probability is a great fighter will have at least two or three outstanding skills...Some have more, seldom less....But to have no weaknesses means that you have to be on the professional level at least in all categories. that is very rare....even some atg's can't do it. For example Roy Jones' chin. When guys figured out how he could get clocked....that was it. his fanatical fans will claim otherwise but the truth is, as good as he was he was very beatable by a guy at the same level.

            Some guys are ATG's because even with only a couple of outstanding skills they have no great weaknesses to expliote. Pernell Whitaker ws perhaps the greatest defensive fighter ever to some....but he had enough power, enough offense that he could win fights with his defense.

            Luck

            Ike Ibeuchi, Mike Tyson, Valero, Nando, Mccall, How many guys could have been so good but for something that happened? or an injury? or a screwed up business deal that prevents them from getting fights? A fighter has to be able to have some breaks and without these breaks a fighter will never be as great.

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            • #36
              Killer instinct. Some boxers have it and some just don't

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              • #37
                In modern times, footwork and defense.

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