what are your thoughts on bert sugar?

[Benncollinsaad]

bert's top 10
1.robinson
2.armstrong
3.willie pep
4.joe louis
5.harry greb
6.benny leaonrd
7.Ali
8.duran
9.jack dempsey
10.jack johnson

Armstrong who?

[Gettin Jiggy]

Armstrong who?

henry! and he deserves to be there!

[TheGreatA]

Can't deny his contributions to the sport but he has always worked better as a storyteller than a legit historian. Not the most reliable source in boxing knowledge.

[Gettin Jiggy]

Can't deny his contributions to the sport but he has always worked better as a storyteller than a legit historian. Not the most reliable source in boxing knowledge.

can you post some of the lies he has said in the past?

[GJC]

I'll read the guy but he is not someone whose writing I particularily look for. Think he is suffering from nat fleischer syndrome been around so long that his age gives him more kudos than I think his knowledge warrants. Also think his writing can have more of him in it than the boxers.

[Jim Jeffries]

Jack Dempsey one of the top 10 greatest HWs of all time? Perhaps, barely. One of the top ten greatest fighters ever? Laughable.

[ßringer]

He's just another old Historian who shows a bias towards fighters of his own generation.

On the one hand ; I cannot deny he is very intelligent and sincere when it comes to giving his opinions on matters related to boxing.

On the other ; I often have a hard time taking anything he says seriously due to the way he continuously downgrades modern fighters and spouts proven myths as fact. (Willie Pep won a round without ever throwing a punch, Ray Robinson knocked out Gene Fullmer going backwards, etc....)

[ßringer]

Can't deny his contributions to the sport but he has always worked better as a storyteller than a legit historian. Not the most reliable source in boxing knowledge.

I've learned more from boxing history in here, from old fight clips on youtube, and from your posts than I ever have from Mr.Sugar.

TheGreatA > Bert "Randolph" Sugar.

[boxingbuff]

bert's top 10
1.robinson
2.armstrong
3.willie pep
4.joe louis
5.harry greb
6.benny leaonrd
7.Ali
8.duran
9.jack dempsey
10.jack johnson

Not a bad list......Take away Dempsey,move up Duran and Ali.

[sonnyboyx2]

He dont rate Lennox Lewis thats my thoughts

i go along with Bert...i dont rate Lennox Lewis also