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Wladimir v Calzaghe-who ranks higher historically

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  • #21
    Wladimir Klitschko obviously.

    How is this a debate? It's not even close.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by BoxingLegend89' View Post
      "But joe never lost"

      This is the type of casual fan who sucks on fighter snuts when they are undefeated, which doesnt say much. F8cking Mayweather brainwashed alot of kids into thinking undefeated means something.... GTFOH Robinson lost 19 times and he is the true ATG (Ali can make a case too).

      I rate joe top 900~ and Wlad top 40~
      Have you even analyzed and dissected Ali's and Sugar's resumes? You watch any of their fights?

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      • #23
        Wlad, even though it's close. However, being THE heavyweight is still the most important status in boxing, even with the lackluster American heavyweight scene. Wlad is a great heavyweight.

        But Wlad and Joe are not 1 and 2 of the last 10 years or so lol

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        • #24
          Originally posted by C.Y. View Post
          Have you even analyzed and dissected Ali's and Sugar's resumes? You watch any of their fights?
          OK I'll bite.

          Explain what you mean.

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          • #25
            Wlad has a far better resume and has dominated for longer. Also, despite not being undefeated, he's never had any close or controversial decisions in his career. Calazahge at his peak was P4P the better fighter, but Wlad has the accolades and the longevity on his side. Those are the things people tend to remember more when viewing fighters in a historical context.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth View Post
              Wlad easily. You can't deny his domination although we wish Vitali didn't fight some of the battles. Still he is a very dominant champion in the biggest division of them all.

              Calzaghe could of added names like Pavlik, Dawson, earlier Roy Jones Jr., Hopkins rematch, Glen Johnson, and Antonio Tarver.

              Nothing against Calzaghe but I think Wlad is just a more accomplished fighter.
              It's not like Wlad has names like that either. So how is it a big deal that Calzaghe doesn't have them when Wlad doesn't either?

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              • #27
                Calzaghe is ahead because unlike Wlad he didn't get KO'd by journeymen, bums, and 38yr old retirees. Also Calzaghe's wins over Kessler, Hopkins, Jones, Eubank etc are better P4P wins than any of Wlad's.

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                • #28
                  These two along with Froch & Kovalev are some my favourite European fighters of the last 10 years! Close call because both overall id say Wlad...

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                    Wlad.... He has beaten everyone of his era... Calzaghe was a better fighter but has some holes in the resume
                    Some holes? Lol, his career is like a cheese-grater

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by KnockoutNed View Post
                      These are the generations Wlad has fought in....

                      Generation 1: Lewis , Tyson , Holyfield , David Tua, John Ruiz

                      Generation 2: Vitali Klitschko, Corrie Sanders , Brewster , Valeuv, Maskeav , Toney , Briggs

                      Generation 3: Povetkin , Pulev , Wilder , Fury

                      Translation

                      Gen1 - Beat Nobody

                      Gen2 - Lost twice

                      Gen3 - 2/2
                      Nice selective bias there.

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