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  • #51
    Originally posted by tub of lard View Post
    Source? Triangle theories don't work.
    Show me the triangle theory I used.......I said the version of Floyd that beat Shane beats the version of Manny that beat Clottey, H2H. What triangle theory was used.....?

    I didn't say because Floyd beat this guy, he beats Pac.
    Last edited by 4Corners; 08-15-2012, 02:48 AM.

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    • #52
      Morales is the best of our generation, would fight all , and went to war(and still does even when a lot of us thought he wouldn't stand a chance). A true fighter and will always be remembered.

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      • #53
        Idk you could pick all their oppents apart the last few years.

        But just going off achievement I'd say

        Floyd
        Bhop
        Marquez
        Manny

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
          B-Hop
          Floyd
          Marquez
          Manny
          this actually ranks them by their boxing knowledge pretty accurately

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          • #55
            I have a hard time rating BHop. His middleweight run got way more respect a decade ago whereas now it almost goes unmentioned. Meanwhile his popularity and public perception has significantly gone up in this last decade but really I feel like he has slid down on most people's ATG lists from where he was around 2003.

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            • #56
              Morales is greater than Mayweather. Morales best win is greater than Mayweathers best win and Morales was in greater fights.

              A real lst would look like this

              Pacquiao
              Morales
              Mayweather
              Marquez

              In terms of skills

              Mayweather
              Marquez
              Morales
              Pacquiao

              In terms of heart

              Marquez
              Pacquiao/Morales
              Mayweather

              In terms of fame

              Mayweather
              Pacquiao
              Morales
              Marquez

              Interms of defense

              Mayweather
              Marquez(young/prime)
              Morales
              Pacquiao

              Interms of offense

              Pacquiao
              Morales
              Marquez
              Mayweather

              Interms of Combination punching

              Marquez
              .
              .
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              .

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              • #57
                Pac
                JMM(mainly for being Pacs kryptonite)
                BH/JC
                Morales
                Last edited by hugh grant; 08-15-2012, 06:27 AM.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                  Pac
                  JMM(mainly for being Pacs kryptonite)
                  BH/JC
                  Morales
                  Your reading skills are staggering.

                  Or is this just your Top 4 ATG list you felt like sharing for no apparent reason?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
                    I have a hard time rating BHop. His middleweight run got way more respect a decade ago whereas now it almost goes unmentioned. Meanwhile his popularity and public perception has significantly gone up in this last decade but really I feel like he has slid down on most people's ATG lists from where he was around 2003.
                    Excellent, excellent post. I think you are underrating his wins over Tarver and the close fight with Calzaghe but I agree with your premise.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      Excellent, excellent post. I think you are underrating his wins over Tarver and the close fight with Calzaghe but I agree with your premise.
                      I'm not sure.

                      I don't recall anyone considering Hopkins a Top 50 ATG back in 2003 and no one would ever even think about saying he's greater than Roy Jones.

                      These day's, most fans consider him Top 50 lowest and greater than Roy.

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