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Why don't any boxers use this kind of stance anymore?
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Originally posted by Tom Cruise View PostHis right hand is not in a position to catch a jab. Nor is it in a position to throw a punch, nor is his arm in a position to block body shots. Its in no mans land
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Originally posted by SplitSecond View PostThe stance doesn't add magical properties to your footwork, and sure the right hand might be ****ed(albiet there is more to throwing a punch correctly than the starting position of your arm), the jab is definitely not in the best place nor is it most mechanically correct, it's there more for pawing to cling/push down on an opponents own arm. The style they used was arm flailing, pushing style which we occasionally saw in George Foreman, and modernly Mayweather and his face pushing and Klitschko.
Regarding flailing... pre modern Fighters often look horrendous when they are punching each other right in range. This is because the emphasis was setting up attacks, and quickly getting in and out of that range. Think of how a fighter today would look trying to set up an attack from sword's length away and greater, while the opponent was on the back leg....they would look equally silly.
oh...one more important point about the hand position: If you had to devise a way to hit your opponent in a similar position as you were in, with the shortest distance possible, and to do so withoug breaking your hand, you would look like one of the old timers. Heres why, first off, nature designed us as vulnerable when things come up at our body...If my hand is coming up I can catch your groin, your plexis, your chin/throat, your nose...However we are fully protected coming down. Hitting down on you I catch your forehead and little else.
This is because primates hit down, hence evolution protects us from things coming down at us....now punching with the hand up I am hitting up into vital areas and because of the angle of the lead position I am avoiding things like hard boney surfaces...the forehead particularly. If we are fighting and I let a piston like lead hand shot, hand held palm up, and settlw my weight so I can catch you hard....even if you put your head down, I won't break my hand on your forhead...if I hit down or straight with no glove....like with a turning jab and you put your head down I can break my hand.
Hope this makes senseLast edited by billeau2; 09-03-2015, 07:53 AM.
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Originally posted by billeau2 View PostActually funny you should mention Bhops. If you look at that pic you have in your post and notice where his head is...he is taking a distance trick used by the ancients right out of the manuel. Its called a false fighting line. All fighters today tend to line the head up directly over the shoulders, Bhops does not. His head is back over a few degrees over his rear shoulder. This created a distance deception where one aims at the head and because it is farther back than it looks, they lose balance. Also by holding the head in this manner the foward shoulder protects the chin. look at pics of guys like Gans you will see the same trick being used, actually most of the old timers did this circa 1910 and after.
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