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  • #11
    Originally posted by The Ninth Layer View Post
    He was a counter-puncher that got beaten by a better, more disciplined counterpuncher who forced him to play a style (pressure-fighter) that wasn't his element at all.

    Donaire is a great fighter. Just look at his last year of competition! It's not like all those guys are mediocre bums. That's a list of four tough boxers to take on in the course of one year.

    Rigo-Donaire was a poor style fight all around which made for a bad viewing experience for the casual viewer. Fights between two counterpunchers never are good to watch, just look at Mayweather-Marquez. But you make the fight worse if you call him trash because he lost to Rigondeaux.

    The problem with calling Donaire a bum if you are a Rigo fan is that you justify everyone who says Rigo could have done more in the fight. If Donaire is a bum, then Rigo didn't need to be so defensive against him, did he?

    The truth is that Rigo needed to play a cautious game because he knows Donaire is hard-hitting and a natural counterpuncher himself. So he played a disciplined outside game instead, forcing Donaire to chase him and then countering Donaire's incoming punches. It was not a pleasing style for everyone to watch, but it was very technically savvy and won Rigondeaux the fight. He might not have won the fight if he had engaged with Donaire.

    If you are a Rigo fan then this is what you need to tell people to promote him!! If you go around telling people that Donaire is a bum and nobody should care about him now that Rigo has beaten him, you take away all the significance of Rigo's accomplishment. If more people think Donaire was always a bum even before he fought Rigondeaux, then less people will care about Rigo beating him.
    They were mediocre.

    Nishioka was shot to pieces, Arce was shot to pieces, Mathebula was average and Vasquez Jr was a poor fight and a SD...that was not FOTY worthy. Nobody said he was a bum, he's a good fighter, but nothing more.

    Rigo didn't have to do anything, he fought the fight he wanted to as he always does. Rigo does what he wants in every fight, that's patient work and counter punching. You fight the fight he decides to make you fight.

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    • #12
      Ring God makes A level fighters look like D level fighters

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      • #13
        Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
        They were mediocre.

        Nishioka was shot to pieces, Arce was shot to pieces, Mathebula was average and Vasquez Jr was a poor fight and a SD...that was not FOTY worthy. Nobody said he was a bum, he's a good fighter, but nothing more.

        Rigo didn't have to do anything, he fought the fight he wanted to as he always does. Rigo does what he wants in every fight, that's patient work and counter punching. You fight the fight he decides to make you fight.
        Nishioka wasn't shot to pieces, that's revisionist BS. Arce was the weakest of the four, fair enough. Mathebula and Vazquez Jr. are good fighters that Donaire beat and with not much controversy. The only guy that had near Donaire's claim on FOTY last year was Marquez with his Pacquiao KO.

        Feel free to represent Rigo any way you want. But if you give no credit to the people he fights (and beats) then don't be surprised if nobody feels like risking their name and earning power against him in return.

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        • #14
          I don't even know what you would hate about Donaire. He's eloquent, he doesn't trash talk, he's a good family man, he gets goofy sometimes, he's not a duck, what else? Hating Donarie says more about the hater.

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          • #15
            1) he will have to move up to 126 or stick around at 122 and settle for what Arum gives him which will be Vazquez jr or Arce ($$$).

            2) For some reason I picture that letter falling into Arum's lap. We all know how he feels about Rigo's fan base and boxings hardcore fans. Lol.

            3) I'd pay PPV if he was on but as mentioned earlier, he never headlined a card before. Most of his fights have been on PPV undercards (Pacquiao's mostly). The Donaire fight was his first HBO headline and it was Donaire the supposed superstar.

            My opinion is give him a shot at headlining him in his current hometown. He deserves that at least. Bring down an HBO card to Miami and use the Heat games to promote the fight. Im pretty sure he will get a decent showing and who knows, fan base may grow a bit. It may be tough but at least give it a shot. Promoters just dont want to promote now a days. Thats the bottom line.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by The Ninth Layer View Post
              If you like Rigondeaux and want to see more of him, you shouldn't talk trash about the guy he just beat. Everyone knows Rigo beat Donaire, but instead of celebrating the victory people are tearing it down by railing on Nonito.

              Quit hating on Donaire just because he's popular and has a style that is more pleasing to the general audience (read: people who actually pay for seats at a fight). You are doing Rigo a disservice by bashing the fighter he just beat!!

              Calling Donaire trash will not make Rigo more popular. It will not make people like Rigo more. It will actually make people think less of him, because by making Donaire out to be a worse fighter than he is, it makes Rigo's win look less special than it was.

              Calling Donaire trash will not make other fighters want to fight Rigo. It will make them less likely to fight him, because they'll see that people he beats are dragged through the dirt. It makes Rigo an even riskier fighter for no more reward.

              If you want Rigo to show up on premium network TV again the three things you should be doing are:
              1) Demanding a fighter for Rigo to fight next!! Fights get made when fans demand match-ups.
              2) Write HBO a letter telling them you want to see more of Rigo!! Word it politely and tell them what you enjoy about Rigo's style. If people actually do this they will pay attention.
              3) Pay to see his fights!! The next time a Rigo fight is announced, make an effort to support him if you are really a fan. That's the only way he will ever grow in popularity: if people go to see his fights.

              Boxing will never be a major sport if all people have to say are negative things. And Rigondeaux will never be a popular fighter i all people have to say about the guys he fought are negative things.
              Its called ""Eating Crow" and thats what you get when you blow up a dudes record when its made of **** fights and overblown acomplishments. Dont like it? Make better, more informed picks next time.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by The Ninth Layer View Post
                Nishioka wasn't shot to pieces, that's revisionist BS. Arce was the weakest of the four, fair enough. Mathebula and Vazquez Jr. are good fighters that Donaire beat and with not much controversy. The only guy that had near Donaire's claim on FOTY last year was Marquez with his Pacquiao KO.

                Feel free to represent Rigo any way you want. But if you give no credit to the people he fights (and beats) then don't be surprised if nobody feels like risking their name and earning power against him in return.
                Nishioka wasn't shot?

                I'm not remotely surprised people dont want to fight Rigo, I know how it works. Guys aren't exactly big on fighting someone who is better than them unless it makes them huge money. Why go in with Rigo to catch an ass-whooping when you could fight easier opponents for similar money? I get it.

                Donaire did it, caught the ass-whooping and he was the best of the rest. That will have made others even less excited about taking that fight.
                Last edited by gmc_rfc_06; 07-15-2013, 04:42 PM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Elotero View Post
                  Its called ""Eating Crow" and thats what you get when you blow up a dudes record when its made of **** fights and overblown acomplishments. Dont like it? Make better, more informed picks next time.
                  Feel free to hate on whoever you want. I'm simply saying that hating on Donaire doesn't help Rigo, it hurts him by diminishing his accomplishment. Either he beat a top p4p fighter or he didn't. Which is it?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
                    Nishioka wasn't shot?

                    I'm not remotely surprised people dont want to fight Rigo, I know how it works. Guys aren't exactly big on fighting someone who is better than them unless it makes them huge money. Why go in with Rigo to catch an ass-whooping when you could fight easier opponents for similar money? I get it.

                    Donaire did it, caught the ass-whooping and he was the best of the rest. That will have made others even less excited about taking that fight.
                    So you are okay with a fighter you support not getting TV dates, attracting new fans or even willing opponents?

                    Well okay but instead you could try promoting the fighter you support, instead of tearing down the guys he fought to make yourself feel better about his situation. Calling everyone besides him a trash fighter means that all his fights will be trash fights.
                    Last edited by The Ninth Layer; 07-15-2013, 04:51 PM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by The Ninth Layer View Post
                      Feel free to hate on whoever you want. I'm simply saying that hating on Donaire doesn't help Rigo, it hurts him by diminishing his accomplishment. Either he beat a top p4p fighter or he didn't. Which is it?
                      What is your problem, trying to spread logic to some of these dumbasses shytting on Donaire.

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