If he's have stayed at 135 or even 140 the improvements would be much more obvious but they were definitely there. 147 was a division over his best imo and it showed when he faced guys who had a bad style for him.
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Originally posted by StarPower View PostIm not going to throw dirt on Manny but Clottey is a bum. Everybody on this site is all about resume so I ask you who has Clottey ever beat? His best wins are still Zab Judah and Chico Coralles years after their prime.
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He didn't get better, he just stopped fighting hall of fame fighters.
The quality of Barrera Morales and Marquez far exceeds cotto, margarito, clottey etc.
Not only do Barrera Morales and Marquez have exceptional ring iq's and craftiness, but they have balls and hearts of steel.
They're the kind of fighters that you have to be special to beat.Last edited by DARKSEID; 06-29-2013, 08:55 AM.
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Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View PostI agree,but a bum is a bit much imo..I'm not saying he is a great fighter,but he is a good fighter..I also stand by what I said,he would have giving anybody at WW at the time a hard fight..I agree he does not have the best resume,but the dude passes the eye test..He's no Mccloskey Foreman Jennings etc etc kinda fighter..If you called anyone of those guy''s bums you'd get no argument from me..Clottey is better then that tho..
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Originally posted by StarPower View PostIm not going to throw dirt on Manny but Clottey is a bum. Everybody on this site is all about resume so I ask you who has Clottey ever beat? His best wins are still Zab Judah and Chico Coralles years after their prime.
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No, he's the most overrated fighter in the history of the sport, fought guys when they were vulnerable and never fought guys in their primes. He beat an old morales and barrera and fought margacheato at 150 for a 154 pound belt. Margacheato already got his ass beat my mosley. Mosley called PAC out and manny team said no and decided to fight margacheato. Manny fought clottey who had loss a controversial fight with cotto. Fought cotto at a Catchweight after he was still traumatized by that plaster beat down from margacheato. He then fights mosley after floyd disposes of him. Sorry but he's overrated as hell. Floyd would've beaten him IMO. Just my opinion.
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