Bert Sugar ''Roy Is 88th On My 100th Greatest Fighters List''

[joartcc5]

But to be honest, Roy Jones is a glass chinned bum...everyone knows this

To be honest everyone knows gayweather is a ***g0t coward lover of Ellerbe.

[Princemanspopa]

90. Aaron Pryor

91. Bernard Hopkins
92. Mike Gibbons
93. Jack Delaney
94. Johnny Kilbane
95. Willie Ritchie
96. Wilfredo Benitez
97. Packey McFarland
98. Rocky Graziano
99. Lew Jenkins
100. Mike Tyson

The men that I bolded are far greater,more accomplished fighters than Aaron Pryor.Aaron Pryor is without question the most overrated fighter in the last thirty years

[RockyB]

Jones is top 30 EASY

[JAB5239]

Jones is top 30 EASY

I have no problem with that at all. I would like to hear your reasons though.

[JakeNDaBox]

For some reason, Bert Sugar was never overly fond of Roy. Such is reflected in the all-time ranking he's given him.

What I don't understand is this generation of media members going out of their way to kiss up to Sugar. I guess it's out of respect for his centuries of service.

I just find it odd, considering there was a time where you couldn't meet a fight personality who didn't claim that Sugar either owed them money, or stuck 'em with a bar bill here, a rent bill there...

[JAB5239]

Lol, I just turned you out like a $5 ho. Try again kid.

I never said Roy would have lost had he not been DQ'd. But he was losing on the score cards and the punch stats. These are facts! Suggesting he would have undoubtedly won had the DQ not occurred is an assumption. You do know the difference between fact and assumption, right?

My man Zerwas up and ran off.....go figure?

[Sergio Martinez]

Bert Sugar is a very overrated Historian. He never lets FACTS get in the way of a good story.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Wille Pep
4. Joe Louis
5. Harry Greb
6. Benny Leonard
7. Muhammad Ali
8. Roberto Duran
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Jack Johnson
11. Mickey Walker
12. Tony Canzoneri
13. Gene Tunney
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Joe Gans
16. Sam Langford
17. Julio Cesar Chavez
18. Jimmy Wilde
19. Stanley Ketchel
20 Barney Ross
21, Jimmy McLarnin
22. Archie Moore
23. Marcel Cerdan
24. Ezzard Charles
25. Sugar Ray Leonard
26. Joe Walcott (The original)
27. Jake LaMotta
28. Eder Jofre
29. Emile Griffith
30. Terry McGovern
31. George Foreman
32. Johnny Dundee
33. Jose Napoles
34. Pascual Perez
35. Billy Conn
36. Ruben Olivares
37. Joe Frazier
38. Tommy Loughran
39. Sandy Saddler
40. Kid Chocolate
41. Abe Attell
42. Evander Holyfield
43. George Dixon
44. Maxie Rosenbloom
45. Larry Holmes
46. Ted "Kid" Lewis
47. Marvin Hagler
48. Pernell Whitaker
49. Carlos Zarate
50. Thomas Hearns
51. Battling Nelson
52. Beau Jack
53. Ricardo ;Lopez
54. John L. Sullivan
55. Carlos Monzon
56. Alexis Arguello
57. Carmen Basillio
58. Pete Herman
59. Charley Burley
60. Ike Williams
61. Kid Gavilan
62. Jack Britton
63. Dick Tiger
64. Pancho Villa
65. Panama Al Brown
66. Bob Fitszimmons
67. Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
68. Tiger Flowers
69. James J.Corbett
70. Tony Zale
71. Tommy Ryan
72. Georges Carpentier
73, Sonny Liston
74. "Kid" McCoy
75. Bob Foster
76. Freddie Welsh
77. Joe Jeanette
78. Jim Driscoll
79. Jersey Joe Walcott
80. Peter Jackson
81. Ad Wolgast
82. Jack Dempsey (The Nonpareil)
83. Manuel Ortiz
84. James J. Jeffries
85. Salvador Sanchez
86. Jimmy Barry
87. Carlos Ortiz
88. Roy Jones Jr.
89. Wilfredo Gomez
90. Aaron Pryor
91. Bernard Hopkins
92. Mike Gibbons
93. Jack Delaney
94. Johnny Kilbane
95. Willie Ritchie
96. Wilfredo Benitez
97. Packey McFarland
98. Rocky Graziano
99. Lew Jenkins
100. Mike Tyson

Thats a terrible list!

[jrosales13]

Thats a terrible list!

It is actually a very hard list to make. You should make one. I would love to see it.

[aristotlemoses]

Yea you know how hard it is to make a top whatever greatest boxers list. Maybe the top 5 are easy to be honest but there are so many great fighters from every class in every era...it's just his opinion. It aint like we have to be forced to agree with this haha.