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  • #11
    Originally posted by johnnycontrolet View Post
    It is so obvious that Warren is extremly biased. The least deserving guy for a title shot is his fighter Ustinov. The guy can't box at all. His other fighter is Hughie Fury. Only with the help of the WBO will he ever have a chance for a title shot. I'd rate Joshua, Wilder and Klitschko as the only three on the world class level, so why should Klitschko not deserve a title shot at the WBA?

    He does if he fights the WBA #1 in Luis Ortiz. Browne is #5 so why should he bypass Ustinov #3 & Oquendo #4?

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    • #12
      Originally posted by joe strong View Post
      He ain't fighting Joshua next summer. He is #2 in the WBA & WBO. He wants a title. Joshua offered up the IBF & a massive payday. He said no. He was in line to fight Parker for the vacant WBO belt as the #2 contender. He said no so they gave the shot to Ruiz as the #3. Browne is not the #1 or #2 in the WBA. He is the #5 behind Ortiz, Klitschko, Ustinov & Oquendo. Klitschko should be fighting Ortiz for the vacant WBA not Lucas Browne. He is simply trying to get a belt without beating the top guys. He is done & should just hang it up. He's had a great career, made lots of money & is going to the hall of fame but what he is doing here is pretty weak. Everyone sees it but Klitschko fans. He is trying to take the path of least resistance. He hasn't looked good since the pulev fight. He is still in great shape but doesn't look like he can pull the trigger anymore. He is over 40 now & there are some serious young gun HWs who may be able to take him out. Fury doesn't have big power but Wilder, Parker & Joshua do. Ortiz is 37 but a serious threat to him too but yet he feels he should be able to fight Browne for a vacant belt when Ortiz is ranked higher than both he & Browne. It's a clear duck of a tough fight. He wants to retire a champion. He has no intention of fighting Wilder, Joshua, Parker or Ortiz. You are a smart guy you should be able to see this.
      Originally posted by joe strong View Post
      He had a chance to fight Joshua for big money & IBF title. He said no, He could of fought Parker for he vacant WBO but said no so the fight went to Ruiz who is #3. He is the WBA #2 as you pointed out so why is he not fighting the WBA #1 Luis Ortiz for the vacant belt? I'll answer that for you... He is trying to avoid a tough fight to get a strap. Browne is the WBA #5. That means there are 3 other guys ranked ahead of Browne not including Klitschko. He is trying to get his hands on a belt without fighting the best guys...
      He'll win the WBA and IBO and fight for the IBF in the summer. He wants the WBA first so it doesn't slip from his grasp like the WBO already has.

      It's very clear to Klitschko fans and for some unbeknown reason others can't see he wants the WBA before competing for the IBF, if he wins the IBF before competing for the the WBA he loses his lofty ranking. It's evident what is at play here only you don't want to see it or do not like.

      Don't act all girly just because Klitschko is about to hold two belts he lost, it is not a forgone conclusion he beats Joshua their is still hope for you and the other fücknuts he won't win back his belts. Ok Browne is a given and a soft touchbut he needs a fight this year after the inbred peckerwood refused to fight him after messing around for half a year after a six month lay off.

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      • #13
        Oh for **** sake I never comment on here anymore but I could not let this one slide.... Warren is tripping hard "why should Klitschko get a shot at the wba?"
        Gee maybe cause he ****in held the fukn thing for a decade. Is that ok frank?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by joe strong View Post
          He had a chance to fight Joshua for big money & IBF title. He said no, He could of fought Parker for he vacant WBO but said no so the fight went to Ruiz who is #3. He is the WBA #2 as you pointed out so why is he not fighting the WBA #1 Luis Ortiz for the vacant belt? I'll answer that for you... He is trying to avoid a tough fight to get a strap. Browne is the WBA #5. That means there are 3 other guys ranked ahead of Browne not including Klitschko. He is trying to get his hands on a belt without fighting the best guys...
          Ok.. here is what I have been explaining to people for the last 3 days, doing it again...

          WBA title is achievable by fighting the #1 or #3 in both cases Ortiz is scheduled to fight Scott, and also has lost his mandatory WBA spot because the Ustinov fight fell through..
          WBO on the other hand announced a 4 man tournament and now they backed out of that and Paker and Ruiz are fighting for the title..
          Both of your claims of not fighting a top guy goes down the drain..
          Why should a guy in his 40s who wanted to reclaim his titles agree to get into a 4 man fight with WBO.. He still has WBA to fight for..
          Coming to Joshua, yeah if Hearn had been consistent about his claim from day 1 about WBA or WBO on the line as the condition then you guys wouldn't have said he missed out an opportunity.. By fighting For IBF, he will lose his ranking with WBA and WBO.. With WBO out of question Wlad stands to lose WBA. So whoever wins the WBA then he has to agree to have them unify after IBF..
          If Joshua is willing to fight in summer next year which I believe he is, then it can be a bigger fight with unification of titles.. So it's a smart move to get your lost belts.. All of this because the douchebag who was supposed to give the guy a rematch went mental...


          P.S - if you think all along Hearn was being honest about his negotiations with Wlad and that WBA was the spanner, you need to go back and start looking at Hearn's interviews from the last 2-3 weeks.. There was always a clause or mention for other titles..
          Last edited by BoxingFan85; 10-22-2016, 10:13 AM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Scott. Weiland View Post
            He'll win the WBA and IBO and fight for the IBF in the summer. He wants the WBA first so it doesn't slip from his grasp like the WBO already has.

            It's very clear to Klitschko fans and for some unbeknown reason others can't see he wants the WBA before competing for the IBF, if he wins the IBF before competing for the the WBA he loses his lofty ranking. It's evident what is at play here only you don't want to see it or do not like.

            Don't act all girly just because Klitschko is about to hold two belts he lost, it is not a forgone conclusion he beats Joshua their is still hope for you and the other fücknuts he won't win back his belts. Ok Browne is a given and a soft touchbut he needs a fight this year after the inbred peckerwood refused to fight him after messing around for half a year after a six month lay off.
            You can bet the WBO contacted him about his WBO #2 ranking. His rematch clause was with Fury not the other ranked guys. Why is he not fighting Ortiz for the vacant belt on Dec 10? Ortiz has Scott next & then is scheduled for Dec 10 on Joshua undercard. Ortiz is the WBA #1 not Browne. It isn't being all girly, it's a fact that he is avoiding the top ranked guy in the WBA. If he needs a tune up by all means fight Browne but it shouldn't be for the vacant WBA belt. Neither Klitschko or Browne are ranked ahead of Ortiz. I don't see why they should fight for a vacant belt. Ustinov & Oquendo are both ranked higher then Browne.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by BoxingFan85 View Post
              Ok.. here is what I have been explaining to people for the last 3 days, doing it again...

              WBA title is achievable by fighting the #1 or #3 in both cases Ortiz is scheduled to fight Scott, and also has lost his mandatory WBA spot because the Ustinov fight fell through..
              WBO on the other hand announced a 4 man tournament and now they backed out of that and Paker and Ruiz are fighting for the title..
              Both of your claims of not fighting a top guy goes down the drain..
              Why should a guy in his 40s who wanted to reclaim his titles agree to get into a 4 man fight with WBO.. He still has WBA to fight for..
              Coming to Joshua, yeah if Hearn had been consistent about his claim from day 1 about WBA or WBO on the line as the condition then you guys wouldn't have said he missed out an opportunity.. By fighting For IBF, he will lose his ranking with WBA and WBO.. With WBO out of question Wlad stands to lose WBA. So whoever wins the WBA then he has to agree to have them unify after IBF..
              If Joshua is willing to fight in summer next year which I believe he is, then it can be a bigger fight with unification of titles.. So it's a smart move to get your lost belts.. All of this because the douchebag who was supposed to give the guy a rematch went mental...
              Ortiz never lost his ranking or mando spot. He simply is not in the tourney anymore. Yes he is fighting Scott but then he is scheduled for DEC 10 on Joshua undercard in a fight defending his WBA interim belt. That is the same date Klitschko has for his next fight in Germany. I'm pretty sure Ortiz is available.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Scott. Weiland View Post
                He'll win the WBA and IBO and fight for the IBF in the summer. He wants the WBA first so it doesn't slip from his grasp like the WBO already has.

                It's very clear to Klitschko fans and for some unbeknown reason others can't see he wants the WBA before competing for the IBF, if he wins the IBF before competing for the the WBA he loses his lofty ranking. It's evident what is at play here only you don't want to see it or do not like.

                Don't act all girly just because Klitschko is about to hold two belts he lost, it is not a forgone conclusion he beats Joshua their is still hope for you and the other fücknuts he won't win back his belts. Ok Browne is a given and a soft touchbut he needs a fight this year after the inbred peckerwood refused to fight him after messing around for half a year after a six month lay off.

                Right on Scotty.. Is it too hard to apply logic on here!? Oh it's the Klitscihkos so they have to be criticized, He has to agree to everything because I want him to.. Some people are just plain

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by joe strong View Post
                  Ortiz never lost his ranking or mando spot. He simply is not in the tourney anymore. Yes he is fighting Scott but then he is scheduled for DEC 10 on Joshua undercard in a fight defending his WBA interim belt. That is the same date Klitschko has for his next fight in Germany. I'm pretty sure Ortiz is available.
                  What are you on about.. Ortiz has lost his spot after the Ustinov fight fell through, he is fighting Scott for the vacant Intercontinental title so he cannot be sanctioned to fight for the vacant title as Browne is the regular WBA champ after Chagaev retired and Browne was reinstated.. Also Ortiz is fighting in Monte Carlo and headlining his own event, he is not on Joshua's undercard who initially was scheduled for Nov 26th.. Twisting facts to your needs ain't good.. With the turn of events that has happened over the last few months with WBA HW fighters.. Be glad they are sanctioning a fight atleast unlike WBO who did not sanction Wlad fighting for WBO title because they wanted to have 4 man tournament to crown the winner..

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by BoxingFan85 View Post
                    What are you on about.. Ortiz has lost his spot after the Ustinov fight fell through, he is fighting Scott for the vacant Intercontinental title so he cannot be sanctioned to fight for the vacant title as Browne is the regular WBA champ after Chagaev retired and Browne was reinstated.. Also Ortiz is fighting in Monte Carlo and headlining his own event, he is not on Joshua's undercard who initially was scheduled for Nov 26th.. Twisting facts to your needs ain't good.. With the turn of events that has happened over the last few months with WBA HW fighters.. Be glad they are sanctioning a fight atleast unlike WBO who did not sanction Wlad fighting for WBO title because they wanted to have 4 man tournament to crown the winner..
                    Browne is not the regular champion. He got reinstated as the WBA #5 contender but didn't get the belt back.
                    Luis Ortiz upcoming schedule... have a look
                    https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...A7_-5GlVoa1F3A

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by joe strong View Post
                      Browne is not the regular champion. He got reinstated as the WBA #5 contender but didn't get the belt back.
                      Luis Ortiz upcoming schedule... have a look
                      https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...A7_-5GlVoa1F3A
                      I cannot believe Boxrec for fight scheduled because they tend to have fights scheduled based on interim news. I'd rather Wlad-Ortiz than Wlad-Browne or even better to have WBA on the line with Wlad AJ on Dec 10.. It rests on WBA to make the decision.. All I want is to Wlad to fight for an earned title on Dec 10th AJ/Ortiz both are welcome..
                      I was sepculating on a thread what if Hearn could pull a Brook move again and say if not AJ fight Ortiz, but Hearn didn't risk it..

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