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  • WladIsTheChamp
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    #101
    Originally posted by The Surgeon
    Ray the problem is, Haye would HAVE to defend against Chagiev in the mean time giving him even less time from recovery and preparation than Wlad and its already hardly anytime. Thats because he can stall his mandatory for a Unification fight with Wlad on the 2nd of July But it must be SIGNED and Wlad cant sign because he has a fight signed with Chisora already.

    Either that or he gets stripped and if thats the case he loses alot of bargaining power vs Wlad, and if the fight falls through he is ****ed and has no big money fight and no title either!

    At least thats what im led to believe
    If Gayevid was any kind of fighter, he would defend against Chagaev first and then get it on with Wlad in July. But he isn't that kind of fighter...just talker and bull****ter. Or he could make a fight with Vitaly, but he def don't want any of big Vit.

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    • The Surgeon
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      #102
      Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
      If Gayevid was any kind of fighter, he would defend against Chagaev first and then get it on with Wlad in July. But he isn't that kind of fighter...just talker and bull****ter. Or he could make a fight with Vitaly, but he def don't want any of big Vit.
      Come'on man its very unreasonable for u to expect him to take on a tough defence and then in the space of what 7weeks? Recover from it and prepare for the biggest fight of his life. These guys fight 2 or 3 times a year.

      Wlad isnt know for fighting every 2 months as Champ, nobody does these days, he knew he wouldnt have to and he knew signing with Chisora would kill the fight

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      • WladIsTheChamp
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        #103
        Originally posted by The Surgeon
        Come'on man its very unreasonable for u to expect him to take on a tough defence and then in the space of what 7weeks? Recover from it and prepare for the biggest fight of his life. These guys fight 2 or 3 times a year.

        Wlad isnt know for fighting every 2 months as Champ, nobody does these days, he knew he wouldnt have to and he knew signing with Chisora would kill the fight
        Maybe this kind of frequency is unknown to Haye but Wlad was fighting once a month at the beginning of his career. Haye doesn't have to wait until May to fight Chagaev, he can fight him in March, he isn't injured like Wlad is. Wlad has never been dishonest up to this point (show me otherwise) and if he says I can fight David in July and fight Chisora in April, I believe him. All Haye had to do was sign and the fight would have been made but guess what, Gayevid doesn't want to defend against Chagaev, he isn't sure he will win, that's the problem.

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          #104
          Very upset about this whole thing. Gotta say that fighting Adamek is a good thing, BUT WLAD NEEDED to fight Haye. very disappointed at all parties involved in all this Haye vs Klits thing

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          • Ray*
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            #105
            Originally posted by The Surgeon
            Ray the problem is, Haye would HAVE to defend against Chagiev in the mean time giving him even less time from recovery and preparation than Wlad and its already hardly anytime. Thats because he can stall his mandatory for a Unification fight with Wlad on the 2nd of July But it must be SIGNED and Wlad cant sign because he has a fight signed with Chisora already.

            Either that or he gets stripped and if thats the case he loses alot of bargaining power vs Wlad, and if the fight falls through he is ****ed and has no big money fight and no title either!

            At least thats what im led to believe

            Am sure something can be worked out with chagaev, if not then Haye can fight chagaev and they can move the Wlad/Haye fight down a bit..

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            • Rocky Rode
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              #106
              I wonder why this fight isn't going to happen on July 2nd...why September? Since, according to Wlad, he can fight once every 8 weeks right?

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              • PrinceNaz88
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                #107
                Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
                Maybe this kind of frequency is unknown to Haye but Wlad was fighting once a month at the beginning of his career. Haye doesn't have to wait until May to fight Chagaev, he can fight him in March, he isn't injured like Wlad is. Wlad has never been dishonest up to this point (show me otherwise) and if he says I can fight David in July and fight Chisora in April, I believe him. All Haye had to do was sign and the fight would have been made but guess what, Gayevid doesn't want to defend against Chagaev, he isn't sure he will win, that's the problem.

                Fighting once a month at the start of your career is fairly common.

                You seriously think Wlad would fight Chisora April 30th, Haye July 2nd and Adamek in September??

                Three fights in 4-5 months. Never going to happen!

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                • Dave Rado
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by The Surgeon
                  Ray the problem is, Haye would HAVE to defend against Chagiev in the mean time giving him even less time from recovery and preparation than Wlad and its already hardly anytime. Thats because he can stall his mandatory for a Unification fight with Wlad on the 2nd of July But it must be SIGNED and Wlad cant sign because he has a fight signed with Chisora already.

                  Either that or he gets stripped and if thats the case he loses alot of bargaining power vs Wlad, and if the fight falls through he is ****ed and has no big money fight and no title either!

                  At least thats what im led to believe
                  They could sign a contract now, despite the Chisora fight. It's happened many times before. Before Judah fought Boldomir in a tune-up, Floyd and Judah had already signed a contract to fight each other after Judah's tune-up. Before De La Hoya fought Sturm in a tune-up, De La Hoya and Hopkins had already signed a contract to fight each other after De La Hoya's tune-up. And Haye and Valuev signed a contract with Ruiz (when Ruiz agreed to step aside), saying the Haye-Valuev winner would fight Ruiz in their next fight. There is no reason at all why Haye couldn't have signed a contract now to fight the Wlad-Chisora winner in July, and the sanctioning bodies would have approved it and would not have enforced his mandatory.

                  In any case, why doesn't Haye fight Vitali in July if he has an issue with fighting Wlad then? He's made it clear that he wants to retire without fighting either brother. Explain that.
                  Last edited by Dave Rado; 01-08-2011, 04:22 PM.

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                  • Dave Rado
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by PrinceNaz88
                    Fighting once a month at the start of your career is fairly common.

                    You seriously think Wlad would fight Chisora April 30th, Haye July 2nd and Adamek in September??

                    Three fights in 4-5 months. Never going to happen!
                    The Adamek fight isn't signed, and wouldn't even be under consideration if Haye hadn't bitched out.

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                    • Jim Jeffries
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Dave Rado
                      They could sign a contract now, despite the Chisora fight. It's happened many times before. Before Judah fought Boldomir in a tune-up, Floyd and Judah had already signed a contract to fight each other after Judah's tune-up. Before De La Hoya fought Sturm in a tune-up, De La Hoya and Hopkins had already signed a contract to fight each other after De La Hoya's tune-up. And Haye and Valuev signed a contract with Ruiz (when Ruiz agreed to step aside), saying the Haye-Valuev winner would fight Ruiz in their next fight. There is no reason at all why Haye couldn't have signed a contract now to fight the Wlad-Chisora winner in July, and the sanctioning bodies would have approved it and would not have enforced his mandatory.
                      Cool, I always wondered why Floyd fought Judah coming off a loss. If Wlad is bluffing about still taking a July 2 fight with Haye, then David should call his bluff, not make up lies as to why he can't. Or make ultimatums like "drop the Chisora fight or I will never fight you."

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