Mike Tyson ATG Living Legend of the Sport
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Sorry to break it to you but Mike's prime ended right after he fought Spinks (1988). I don't think you've ever watched Tyson vs. Douglas. If you did, you would see that Mike's performance and skill level was an F from the first round onward. A D minus fighter like Douglas doesn't come a long and beat a prime Mike Tyson, even in fantasy match up. Isn't it enough of a hint to you that Mike's corner was using a condom filled with ice water to help Mike's face not swell?
Sorry to break it to you but nuthuggers dont decide when a fighters prime ends.Tyson went through no long lay offs or any serious injury that hampered his career and was the same fighter in 1990 as he was in 1988.I've seen the fight many times and its a fight that ranks up there with the best Ive ever seen.the underdog who exposed the great myth.
tysons corner slapping a condom against his face has nothing to do with the fact that he was dominated in every single round.Comment
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the same mccall who was dominated in a rematch with lewis exposing his fluke ko? lol is this the same guy were talking about? when did tyson ever avenge a defeat then?
are u still mad that lewis bullied you at school or something?Comment
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Since apparently begin lazy in the gym now means being past one's prime, I submit that Buster Douglas' prime began and ended with the Tyson fight. James "Buster" Douglas, GOAT.
Tyson fought in perhaps the weakest era in heavyweight history and was still challenged by guys like Quick Tillis and Tony Tucker.Last edited by SBleeder; 08-09-2010, 05:39 AM.Comment
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23 years old and out of his prime. Wow, what a legend.
Since apparently begin lazy in the gym now means being past one's prime, I submit that Buster Douglas' prime began and ended with the Tyson fight. James "Buster" Douglas, GOAT.
Tyson fought in perhaps the weakest era in heavyweight history and was still challenged by guys like Quick Tillis and Tony Tucker.Comment
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Lewis got McCall out of a drug-rehab and was to afraid to throw a punch on him when he broke down in the ring... Lewis was terrified of Mike Tyson so much so that Lewis had to have the ring cordoned-off with dozens of police officers during the introductions... Talk about a guy who is ****-scaredComment
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he will never be in top ten on most people's lists, although i think he's done more than jersey walcott, marciano, dempsey, or johnson all the guys that are rated above him. really when you break down their records there's really not that much to rival in terms of accomlishments.
dempsey avoided black fighters and was inconsistent during his reign
marciano while went undefeated fought guys on the way down, not to mention that 80% of the guys he fought were no better than foreman's early opponents
walcott was a jorneyman who was in the right place in the wrong time
and johnson while being the first black champion avoided most good fighters who were a threat to him
mike gets too much shyt while the other guys conviniently get a passComment
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Just for the record, being lazy at the gym and suffering harshly from it in the ring is considered falling out of your prime, no?
Mike Tyson after firing Kevin Rooney after the Spinks fight in 1988 was a fraction of what he was. Nothing you ever say will change that. He lost his reflexes, his timing, his speed, his ability to to throw combinations, his stamina, his head movement, his defense, his everything. If you can't see that from his 1988 fights vs. any fight in 1990, you don't need to be in the debate. Facts are facts. Pretend all you want to.
Mike had the death of Cus D'Amato, the death of Jimmy Jacobs, the Don King-Bill Cayton fiasco, the Robin Givens and Ruth Roper situation, bad influences like Rory Holloway and John Horne, his own immaturity, his lack of will for boxing, the false **** accusation by Desiree Washington, nightlife and friends, the lies and ruthlessness of Don King, his unwinding of his friendship with Kevin Rooney, etc., etc., etc. all hanging over his head and disrupting his boxing and training.
It would take more than just Cus being alive to keep Tyson in line. To keep Tyson in line and in the game, the following ingredients were needed:
1.) Jim Jacobs and/or Cus D'Amato
2.) Kevin Rooney
3.) Mike's discipline, heart, and willpower.
4.) Lack of bad influences and distractions such as Robin Givens, Ruth Roper, Don King, Rory Holloway, and John Horne (none of the last three would have entered Mike's life had Cus and/or Jimmy remained alive).
So back to the point: the facts are the facts. Your opinion or personal hatred of Mike doesn't change them.Comment
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