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  • A look into the fraudulent career of Bernard Hopkins

    Let's take a quick look at Bhop's greatest wins and some of his losses.

    Key wins:

    10.18.2008 Kelly Pavlik - Prior to fighting Bernard Hopkins at 170lbs, Kelly Pavlik was the best 160 pounder on the planet. 160 was his prime weight, however Hopkins fought him 10lbs above this weight.

    07.21.2007 Winky Wright - Winky spent most of his career fighting at 154. He was coming off a great winning streak and had never fought over 159 pounds before fighting Bernard Hopkins. Again, Hopkins defeated Winky at a weight Winky was not comfortable at, 170lbs.

    06.10.2006 Antonio Tarver - Bernard Hopkins wins a decision over Antonio Tarver who made a name for himself by beating a shot Roy Jones Jr. Bernard beats someone at their best weight. Too bad it was a C+ fighter.

    09.18.2004 Oscar De La Hoya - Oscar De La Hoya who's prime weight was at 147 suffered a 9th round KO by Bernard Hopkins who had spent the last year at 160 and slimmed down four pounds to fight Oscar who by the way is 6-3 at fights above welterweight. 1 of those win being a robbery against Felix Sturm.

    09.29.2001 Felix Trinidad - This sadly is the greatest win of Bernard Hopkins' career. Anyone who followed Trinidad knows that like Oscar, his best weight was 147. Bernard Hopkins beats Trinidad at middleweight, which is two classes above Trinidad's prime weight.


    Key Losses:

    4.19.2008 Joe Calzaghe - Joe Calzaghe moves up one weight class from Super Middleweight to Light Heavyweight. This time it backfires on Hopkins as Hopkins is dealt a schooling at the hands of Calzaghe after saying he'd never lose to a white boy.

    12.03.2005 & 7.16.2005 Jermain Taylor - Jermain Taylor beats Hopkins twice in what Hopkins' fans called a robbery, x2. The truth is when Hopkins decides to fight elite fighters his size, Taylor has his number.

    05.22.1993 Roy Jones Jr. - Roy Jones wins a very decisive decision over Bernard Hopkins. Hopkins' fans will tell you this was a green version of Hopkins, but fail to mention it was a green version of Jones who even admitted before the fight that Hopkins was his toughest opponent to date. The weird thing is while Hopkins was "green" he was older than RJJ. This is important because when Hopkins rematched Jones 17 years later his fans cry that Hopkins is older than Jones implying that it was even. So his age has nothing to do with being green against Jones, but it is a factor in the rematch? Which is it?

    Bring out the gimp



  • #2
    don't agree with you potna, I think he had a good run. The trinidad fight most money was on felix and he proved people wrong. I don't think he's one of the greatest ever but it shows how hard work and discipline can beat talent

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    • #3
      are you a floyd fan???..............

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      • #4
        It's been done.

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        • #5
          Hes an ATG. Its pretty much set in stone.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Terry Benedict View Post
            Let's take a quick look at Bhop's greatest wins and some of his losses.

            Key wins:

            10.18.2008 Kelly Pavlik - Prior to fighting Bernard Hopkins at 170lbs, Kelly Pavlik was the best 160 pounder on the planet. 160 was his prime weight, however Hopkins fought him 10lbs above this weight.

            07.21.2007 Winky Wright - Winky spent most of his career fighting at 154. He was coming off a great winning streak and had never fought over 159 pounds before fighting Bernard Hopkins. Again, Hopkins defeated Winky at a weight Winky was not comfortable at, 170lbs.

            06.10.2006 Antonio Tarver - Bernard Hopkins wins a decision over Antonio Tarver who made a name for himself by beating a shot Roy Jones Jr. Bernard beats someone at their best weight. Too bad it was a C+ fighter.

            09.18.2004 Oscar De La Hoya - Oscar De La Hoya who's prime weight was at 147 suffered a 9th round KO by Bernard Hopkins who had spent the last year at 160 and slimmed down four pounds to fight Oscar who by the way is 6-3 at fights above welterweight. 1 of those win being a robbery against Felix Sturm.

            09.29.2001 Felix Trinidad - This sadly is the greatest win of Bernard Hopkins' career. Anyone who followed Trinidad knows that like Oscar, his best weight was 147. Bernard Hopkins beats Trinidad at middleweight, which is two classes above Trinidad's prime weight.


            Key Losses:

            4.19.2008 Joe Calzaghe - Joe Calzaghe moves up one weight class from Super Middleweight to Light Heavyweight. This time it backfires on Hopkins as Hopkins is dealt a schooling at the hands of Calzaghe after saying he'd never lose to a white boy.

            12.03.2005 & 7.16.2005 Jermain Taylor - Jermain Taylor beats Hopkins twice in what Hopkins' fans called a robbery, x2. The truth is when Hopkins decides to fight elite fighters his size, Taylor has his number.

            05.22.1993 Roy Jones Jr. - Roy Jones wins a very decisive decision over Bernard Hopkins. Hopkins' fans will tell you this was a green version of Hopkins, but fail to mention it was a green version of Jones who even admitted before the fight that Hopkins was his toughest opponent to date. The weird thing is while Hopkins was "green" he was older than RJJ. This is important because when Hopkins rematched Jones 17 years later his fans cry that Hopkins is older than Jones implying that it was even. So his age has nothing to do with being green against Jones, but it is a factor in the rematch? Which is it?

            Bring out the gimp




            he had a historically significant run at 160......future HOF no doubt....but i rate Toney and RJJ above him............

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            • #7
              Originally posted by check hook View Post
              he had a historically significant run at 160......future HOF no doubt....but i rate Toney and RJJ above him............
              As do I. I just felt like going in at Hopkins today. My heart is full of hate this morning.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Darth Sidious View Post
                Let's take a quick look at Bhop's greatest wins and some of his losses.

                Key wins:

                10.18.2008 Kelly Pavlik - Prior to fighting Bernard Hopkins at 170lbs, Kelly Pavlik was the best 160 pounder on the planet. 160 was his prime weight, however Hopkins fought him 10lbs above this weight.

                07.21.2007 Winky Wright - Winky spent most of his career fighting at 154. He was coming off a great winning streak and had never fought over 159 pounds before fighting Bernard Hopkins. Again, Hopkins defeated Winky at a weight Winky was not comfortable at, 170lbs.

                06.10.2006 Antonio Tarver - Bernard Hopkins wins a decision over Antonio Tarver who made a name for himself by beating a shot Roy Jones Jr. Bernard beats someone at their best weight. Too bad it was a C+ fighter.

                09.18.2004 Oscar De La Hoya - Oscar De La Hoya who's prime weight was at 147 suffered a 9th round KO by Bernard Hopkins who had spent the last year at 160 and slimmed down four pounds to fight Oscar who by the way is 6-3 at fights above welterweight. 1 of those win being a robbery against Felix Sturm.

                09.29.2001 Felix Trinidad - This sadly is the greatest win of Bernard Hopkins' career. Anyone who followed Trinidad knows that like Oscar, his best weight was 147. Bernard Hopkins beats Trinidad at middleweight, which is two classes above Trinidad's prime weight.


                Key Losses:

                4.19.2008 Joe Calzaghe - Joe Calzaghe moves up one weight class from Super Middleweight to Light Heavyweight. This time it backfires on Hopkins as Hopkins is dealt a schooling at the hands of Calzaghe after saying he'd never lose to a white boy.

                12.03.2005 & 7.16.2005 Jermain Taylor - Jermain Taylor beats Hopkins twice in what Hopkins' fans called a robbery, x2. The truth is when Hopkins decides to fight elite fighters his size, Taylor has his number.

                05.22.1993 Roy Jones Jr. - Roy Jones wins a very decisive decision over Bernard Hopkins. Hopkins' fans will tell you this was a green version of Hopkins, but fail to mention it was a green version of Jones who even admitted before the fight that Hopkins was his toughest opponent to date. The weird thing is while Hopkins was "green" he was older than RJJ. This is important because when Hopkins rematched Jones 17 years later his fans cry that Hopkins is older than Jones implying that it was even. So his age has nothing to do with being green against Jones, but it is a factor in the rematch? Which is it?

                Bring out the gimp


                Let's see.

                Pavlik had already fought Taylor and beat him at 166. Pavlik was heavily favoured to beat and knock out Hopkins. Pavlik is 6' 2.5" so its not like Hopkins was fighting a small guy. Oh and I forgot to mention, Hopkins was 43 at the time.

                Winky may have had to gain weight but Hopkins was old. Maybe we should discount Wrights wins against Mosley who looked much smaller than Wright did against Hopkins. Hopkins manages to outbox a defensive boxing master like Wright that few can look good against

                Against Tarver Hopkins went up from 160 to 175 with no tune up fight and again beat a heavily favoured opponent, one of the top Light Heavyweights at the time. WHy does Dawson get credit for heating Tarver when Hopkins did it when TArverwas much younger moving up in weight.

                Oscar couldn't make 147 comfortably, he was the champion at 160 and had beaten Felix Sturm. Hopkins weighed in at 156 only 1 pound heavier than De La Hoya.

                Felix Trinidad was heavily favoured to beat Hopkins and was the champion at middleweight. He had knocked out Joppy in 5 rounds where it took Hopkins a 12 round decision to beat him at middleweight.

                Jermain Taylor gets close victories over Hopkins at 40.

                Joe Calzaghe fights a 43 year old Hopkins and barely gets a win. Kevin Iole of Yahoo Sports, ESPN, Associated Press, Adelaide Byrd all score the fight in Favour of Hopkins.


                Hate him for his personality all you want, but hes had significant victories.

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                • #9
                  Hopkins is an ATG.

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                  • #10
                    Boxing history is replete with all-time great middleweight champs defending their title against welterweights moving up. Didn't Marvin Hagler lose his title to a former undisputed welterweight champ?

                    http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...e-boxing-work/

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