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  • #91
    Originally posted by Jo94403 View Post
    I can't believe you all are still missing the point. Manny never said he will not take the test. HE WILL TAKE THE TEST! Any test. Your forgetting that he has taken hundreds of test, blood, urine and NEVER EVER TESTED POSITIVE!!!

    The only thing he ask for is for it not to be close to the fight. He blames his first loss to Morales because he had to take a blood test 1 day before that fight and he said he felt weaker. He doesn't want that to happen again.

    It's not about Manny not taking the test. It's WHEN he will take it. He took a blood test 20 days before the Clottey fight. Mayweather wants it up to the fight.

    If they can just agree to how many days before the fight they will take the test, THEN WE WILL HAVE A FIGHT!

    So stop with your bull**** that Manny is not agreeing to take the test. He will take the test just as long it's not close to the fight!!!!
    when will u guys get it--------IF ITS NOT RANDOM IT DOESNT WORK THERE IS A SCIENCE HERE

    DO THE RESEARCH ALL IT TAKES IS A FEW HOURS TO BEAT THE TESTS IF THEIR NOT RANDOM

    GAD DAM ALREADY
    Last edited by Bennett; 03-24-2010, 11:18 AM.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by jtiger78 View Post
      floyd agreed to all of pacs demands with no trouble!!!! But they didnt agree to his one demand!!!! Just one!!! Floyd asking for the test is changing the rules but pac asking for 10 mil over every pound isnt???? No its just pac stating the terms on which needs to be met in order for him to fight just like floyd did with the test. Floyd could have made the argument that 10 mil for every pound over was to much and make it 5mil or make it lower but he didnt he just agreed because in order for him to get the fight he had to do it because that was a demand of his opponent very simple and very logical...
      they wont respond because there is no response-------none that makes any sense anyway

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Bennett View Post
        when will u guys get it--------if its not RANDOM IT DOESNT WORK THERE IS A SCIENCE HERE

        DO THE RESEARCH ALL IT TAKES IS A FEW HOURS TO BEAT THE TESTS IF THEIR NOT RANDOM

        GAD DAM ALREADY
        It doesn't matter if it's random or not. DO YOU GET IT???? Manny will take ANY TEST just as long as it is not close to the fight.

        Has Manny given you any indication that he has been on any PED? Are you like the Mayweather's and the Malignaggi who will accuse someone that they are using PED with NO BASIS whatsoever.

        Just because he doesn't want to take it so close to the fight because he feels that he gets weaken by the blood test, doesn't mean that he is guilty of using PED.

        We live in America. You are innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by BoxeoBoriqua View Post
          idk u so I don't like 2 talk about people if idk them but it sounds like your a Floyd fan, its kinda hard 2 get thru 2 ya SOME of ya sometimes. Floyd agreed 2 fight him right, then when Pacquiao agreed, he came out of nowhere with the drug testing demands. That in ways was an insult 2 Pacquiao's accomplishments, im sure you would have felt the same way had you been in Manny's shoes. I also didn't think he wanted 2 fight Pacquiao in the 1st place.
          he didnt come out of nowhere they agreed and thats that. if that was me i would take the tests, knock mayweather out and claim the throne that was mine. an innocent man will do everything and anything to prove his innocence its that simple.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Bennett View Post
            he didnt come out of nowhere they agreed and thats that. if that was me i would take the tests, knock mayweather out and claim the throne that was mine. an innocent man will do everything and anything to prove his innocence its that simple.
            True statement!

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Jo94403 View Post
              It doesn't matter if it's random or not. DO YOU GET IT???? Manny will take ANY TEST just as long as it is not close to the fight.

              Has Manny given you any indication that he has been on any PED? Are you like the Mayweather's and the Malignaggi who will accuse someone that they are using PED with NO BASIS whatsoever.

              Just because he doesn't want to take it so close to the fight because he feels that he gets weaken by the blood test, doesn't mean that he is guilty of using PED.

              We live in America. You are innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.
              it has to be close to the fight to get an accurate reading. how hard can that be to understand????? there is basis, the dropping of big weight and coming in almost 20 pounds heavier has been an issue with me for the past 15 years and not just from pacyow but from many other fighters as well.

              i used to fight and know the game inside and out and know the capabilities of fighters. i have also been in stables with well known fighters----fighters you would know and I HAVE SEEN them taking roids and peds to get down in weight and to add weight. i have seen it with my own 2 eyes. im not just some guy thats never done anything.

              the blood thing was like the excuse number 3 or 4. if that was the 1st and original excuse i would be more inclined to take his word but the way he got to that excuse is a sound base for su****ion.

              this isnt a court of law brah so no hes not innocent until proven guilty. i have experience-----good experience with this and my experience has led me to my belief that hes hiding somethin and thats that.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Bennett View Post
                he didnt come out of nowhere they agreed and thats that. if that was me i would take the tests, knock mayweather out and claim the throne that was mine. an innocent man will do everything and anything to prove his innocence its that simple.
                That's true an innocent man would & Pacquiao should do everything u said but c'mon, after 40 pro fights Floyd fells the need 2 go 2 this & request special drug testing??? That's lame my dude. Every other fighter in the game is going under the same system. Why does this fight have 2 be different. Imo this is him again thinking he's bigger then the sport.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Bennett View Post
                  it has to be close to the fight to get an accurate reading. how hard can that be to understand????? there is basis, the dropping of big weight and coming in almost 20 pounds heavier has been an issue with me for the past 15 years and not just from pacyow but from many other fighters as well.

                  i used to fight and know the game inside and out and know the capabilities of fighters. i have also been in stables with well known fighters----fighters you would know and I HAVE SEEN them taking roids and peds to get down in weight and to add weight. i have seen it with my own 2 eyes. im not just some guy thats never done anything.

                  the blood thing was like the excuse number 3 or 4. if that was the 1st and original excuse i would be more inclined to take his word but the way he got to that excuse is a sound base for su****ion.

                  this isnt a court of law brah so no hes not innocent until proven guilty. i have experience-----good experience with this and my experience has led me to my belief that hes hiding somethin and thats that.
                  You my friend must be an expert in PEDS and ROIDS on how you explain your side of things.

                  Then in that case i invite you to this thread and maybe you can enlighten everyone with your vast knowledge.

                  Tortilla Warrior's "For 40 fights, its quite clear this guy used PEDs"

                  http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=367230

                  Feel free to dab in with your logic and expertise please...

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Bennett View Post
                    explain why he called shane out 2-3x over the last 10 years plus back when shane was undefeated?

                    if he wasnt trying to fight shane then explain why berto got stepaside money?
                    Any real boxing fans knows that Shane was part of the reason Floyd came back. There was no reason to rush into that fight because Floyd already has a solid relationship with GB so he went after Manny who was the main reason he came back and a more difficult negotiation.

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                    • Originally posted by BoxeoBoriqua View Post
                      That's true an innocent man would & Pacquiao should do everything u said but c'mon, after 40 pro fights Floyd fells the need 2 go 2 this & request special drug testing??? That's lame my dude. Every other fighter in the game is going under the same system. Why does this fight have 2 be different. Imo this is him again thinking he's bigger then the sport.
                      ive said this before-----if carbajal moved up like pacyow did and knocked out hearns you gotta expect people to notice and question the **** out of it. ive been watching this rise since it started and roach said during the diaz fight when asked how far manny would move up freddy said they woudl never fight floyd or tony. when asked why he said they were too big and this and that. but all of a sudden freddy changes his mind to such a degree that floyd is scurred?

                      we dont know everything either. maybe there was a reason other than tony being feared based on his skills as to why people didnt want to fight him. maybe they were rumors of bricked gloves and shady **** goin around b4 he got popped for it. u cant really come out and say well i heard tony has bricked up hands when there is no basis because that would generate bad media for boxing in a time when boxing needs erry fan they can get with mma and **** out there. not syain thats all true but think out of the box for a minute and dont forget we dont see errythin that goes on behind closed doors. we get fed alot of info.

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