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Originally posted by Hyacinth View PostNO ONE, i repeat, NO ONE, really thinks pacquiao can beat mayweather. those who do are either filipino, dumb, haters, super biased fanboys or a combination of all of these.
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Originally posted by AFighter4U View Posti applaud your tenacity in answering lead's accusations point by point mikemurni. but knowing lead, he'd just rant more and not answer a single point you've discussed.
that or he'll resort to more name-calling, cussing, cursing and gnashing of teeth -- his typical reaction when he's caught in a corner and shown the idiocy of his ways.
You replied to my post with a bunch of chidish whiney dribble.
SO it is funny to hear you lauding an equally impressive pile of crap
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Manny Pacquiao is a coward.....
Originally posted by AFighter4U View Postlol! i go out of my way to explain things to you logically, and you equate that to being emo?
have you actually reread your posts lately? most of it is filled with hate, expletives, constant references to the male genitalia and representative rants
now THAT is what one calls being emo.
its quite sad actually how lost you are dude. but i guess its to be expected from someone like you.
and these rantings typically come out from you when you could no longer defend your position and are shown to have shallow reasoning.
you're a sad, sad and angry man. you need help dude.
2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.
3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.
4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.
5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!
6.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for being such a cherry-picker.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
* And at JMW, Manny will not fight anybody at all
7.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.
Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.
Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostAs YOU stated already in the other post, I successfully challenged you already.
You ducked me like a scared little b1tch.....
Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post" I answered your post but I am still waiting for you to answer my previous post![/B] If you really look at Manny and Floyd at 147, WITHOUT YOUR TWISTS (ie. your previous post) Manny has the better resume at WW. "
STOP !!
You are full of it......
Now understand, this is the point, and I expect you to reply, like I did......
" WITHOUT YOUR TWISTS "
WTF..... " TWISTS " ?
I challenge YOU ADP02, to refute anything in my post that is even slightly inaccurate.....Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
The only ww that Manny has EVER fought at 147 is..... Josh Clottey.
Mayweather fought Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Mosley..... I don't count Hatton or Marquez as WW.
So, let's summarize.....
Above 147.....
Manny fought faded no-wraps cheato at catch-weight, Floyd fought Hoya at 154 when he was champ, no comparison there.
At 147.....
Clottey, who wouldn't fight back for some reason, faded Cotto at 145, and shrink-wrapped Hoya..... is not as good as Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Mosley, Hatton, and Marquez.
I challenge YOU ADP02, to refute anything in my post that is even slightly inaccurate.....
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Originally posted by mikemurni View Post1.)The 8 division title maybe a farce to you, although I dont see anyone duplicating that feat anytime soon, but his 4 lineal title in 4 different weight classes weren't.. And those titles are legit because he defeated the best fighters (including your boyfriend JMM) on that weight class to get them. Their not like Floyd's lineal title at WW, which we all know was a joke considering the opponent that he beat...So yeah, suck on that...
Yep, correct, I agree 100%, that title is a total fkn joke.
Kid, you are a fkn idiot if you think that pacroid is a genuine JMW champ.
2.) Yeah, right... Blame only Pac for not makin' that fight possible. There's plenty of blame to toss around on both camps. To point the blame on Pac, and Pac alone is a fanboy's perspective, which in the first place what this whole *****in' is all about.. Now I am not goin' to go back and forth with you on this issue because this has been discuss to death since 2009.
At least Pac is out there fightin', and if Floyd wants to renegotiate, all he has to do is announce his comeback against any fighter, and things will eventually move forward.. That's all he has to do..
*** off kid, it is plainly obvious that fight broke down because pacroid would not submit to random blood testing without a 24-day cutoff, give yourself an uppercut for being so ******.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-...day-cut--27427
http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/inde..._report_t.html
3.) The last time I checked Pac and JMM came from the same division (SFW).. So why aren't you ****in on JMM for not movin up to 154.. At least Pac had the balls to stay at WW.. Where is JMM now?? That's right.. fighting fringe opponent (Katsidis, Diaz II) at LW...
No one is dVckin' Martinez, moron.. Martinez is a LMW/MW, Pac is a WW..If anything you should be criticizing Martinez for calling out a smaller man, instead of fighters in his weight class.
In point one, just above, you tried to tell me that pacroid is a genuine JMW champ, and yet now you are telling me that pacroid is a WW?
Manny Pacquiao is a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez.
If JMM can go up TWO DIVISIONS to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny!!
4.) Pac fought Cotto at 145 after fightin a drained opponent at 147, and LWW wherein both times weigh-in at 142 and 139 respectively..So how the hell, can you NOT see the logic behind the catchweight.. Pac was a not a legitimate WW, you shmuck.. You refuse to give him credit for the DLH fight, yet you keep using that as a reference to argue when it comes to the catchweight with Cotto. That what you call overreaching..
OK, firstly, you just shredded pacroid's win over Hoya when you admitted that he was drained. Did you even realise that ?
Secondly, " can you NOT see the logic behind the catchweight " .....
Don't be so ******. When you demand a catch-weight you are admitting that you could not compete with that fighter at his natural weight, just like Manny could not compete with Hoya at his natural weight, or any JMW for that matter.
The catch-weight was unnecessary, because Manny could have probably beaten that version of Cotto at 147 anyways. The catch-weight demand was a cowardly b1tch-move, because Manny had already fought at 147.
5.) TWICE??...Pac fought Cotto instead of Mosley.. You cant call that duvking if you are fighting an opponent on the same level or even higher level than the other guy cause Cotto did beat Mosley...
Triangle theories? Really? Pac fought a Cotto that had been battered by both cheato and Clottey. EVERYBODY was saying that Cotto looked shop-worn and faded after Clottey. Miguel was not on top of his game, he had no trainer to speak of, and he most certainly was not in his prime.
Shane was not shot, he had just KTFO that bum cheato, which is why Manny ducked him, TWICE!! But now that Mosley looks to be in significant decline, surprise surprise, Manny is raring to go
[I]6.) You moron.. How can you cherrypicked opponents when you have Barrera, JMM, Morales, Cotto, Margarito, Hatton, DLH, Ledwaba, Sasakul, and soon Mosley in your resume. Pac has the best resume among active fighters. His been in the P4P list since 2003. He fought MAB, JMM, Morales within a span of 18 months with only one tune-up... He fought Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Marg, and now Mosley successively.. He defied the odds when he moved up to WW from LW when he agreed to be cherrypicked by DLH. You can say whatever you want with that fight, but there is no question about how that fight was perceived before it took place.. You dont get to the top for being a cherrypicker.
Pac's resume before Marquez II was ok, although there are a number of fighters that he conveniently missed, and question marks over others. But when he became pacroid, things went badly wrong.....
Diaz
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight the best in the division, or defend
Hoya
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Hatton
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Cotto
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Clottey
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Margarito
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Where the *** were you going there kid?
7.) Pac already fought Marquez twice, you moron.
Exactly, check out the look on Manny's face before the winner was announced, he lost that fight, he looked like a beaten man.
We all saw it.
Then Arum helped Manny avoid the immediate rematch by low-balling Marquez with a $750k offer, instead of the original $1.5mil agreement.
Pac's career does not revolve on one fighter (the same came cannot be said for Marquez though). Pac is goin' to do what is best for his career and has no obligation to fight Marquez at this point. To tell you the truth that fight shouldn't even be made.. JMM has done squat since losing to Floyd. And I mean zilch at both LW or WW.
t is a fkn joke that pacroid is too p1ss-scared to fight Marquez unless JMM jumps TWO DIVISIONS to 147, higher than when Manny won his ww title.
Does that guy have no dignity at all ?
That chicken-**** rubbish is only one step better than getting your brother to fight your rematches
Manny is a natural JWW, and can easily make 140 according to Ariza/Roach.
Everybody can see what's up there.
Oh, except for you non-boxing fan's that is.....
"However, this fight only makes sense to me if it takes place at junior welterweight (and I would hope Marquez would weigh-in under 140 pounds). Why Pacquiao and company refuse to even consider fighting Marquez at 140 pounds (instead of the 144 or 147 they stipulate) is a very good question. The answer is obvious: they want every conceivable advantage against their aging but still-dangerous nemesis"
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/1...friday-mailbag
Your dribble was a joke, and so are you.
You at least put some semblance of thought into that post, and because of that, I would like to score you an "E"..... for "effort".
But no, because your post was somewhat dishonest, and largely comprised of unfounded whining, you get an "F"..... for "FAIL".
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Fact is;
If Pacman really wanted it he would have taken the tests & called Mayweathers bluff, which in truth anyone should take because it stops cheating and gives a good impression on the person and the representation of sport.
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Originally posted by LeadUppercut View PostThe fact that you are even discussing the demand for the cutoff date, proves that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
"Mayweather wants all his future opponents to submit to random, Olympic-style blood and urine testing. Pacquiao refused. A compromise failed to reach fruition when Mayweather said he would allow a cutoff of blood testing 14 days before the fight, while Pacquiao insisted on a cutoff 24 days before the fight."
"the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight didn't get made because Manny Pacquiao said he wanted two weeks of non-testing. The last two weeks leading up until the fight, he didn't want to take the tests, so that's why the fight didn't happen." - Floyd Mayweather Jr
FMJ never said Manny wanted 24 days cut-off
He is talking about the only negotiation since they denied the second
On your link it was Ellerbe saying Manny wanted 24 days
but on Fighthype it was 14 days cut off Manny want and that was according to Floyd Mayweather himself
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