Freddie Roach did nothing for Pacquiao skillwise other then make him stronger/faster

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  • dvb
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    #11
    to not give pacman credit is to not appreciate a skillfull boxer puncher who has given so much entertainment to this era.

    its a pity people cant just enjoy what he gives to the sport.

    sure floyd has been great to watch too,but hes not fought the high level of opposition as often as pac has faced,and has not fought nearly as much as pac has fought.

    just be lucky your alive when this man is and give credit where credits due,no hating.

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    • ATG Fighter
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      #12
      You obviously haven't seen his earlier fights, or you really don't understand boxing. His footwork, balance, right hand are amongst the many things that have made him better. It used to be all about using the speed and getting the big left in, not anymore.

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      • Rabbit ♠
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        #13
        If Roach is Pacquiao's strength and conditioning coach then what Alex Ariza's role?

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        • Chups
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          #14
          5 years ago I remember Steward calling Pac outbalanced and that only his athleticism is making up for it. Now Steward is saying Pac has the best footwork in boxing.

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          • pistol whip
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            #15
            Wow i didn't know Stevie Wonder posted on Non Stop Boxing!!!

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              #16
              Someone's mom didn't know how to use the hanger effectively.

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              • them_apples
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                #17
                Originally posted by Aiwass
                If you study Pacquiao's career, he fights the same way he's fought his whole career, the only thing Roach did for Pacquiao was introduce him to ALEX ARIZA and their mysteriously yellow powder/mix that he's talked about in the past.

                I want everybody go go back and watch earlier Pacquiao fights and more recent Pacquiao fights and the only thing you will see is a bigger stronger faster more energetic, tenacious fighter.

                who moves up in weight and throws more punches then before?
                his timing has greatly improved, he catches guys with dead accuracy. On top of that he's a much smarter fighter..he was extremely reckless in his youth. Even his sparring partners say this - his style has changed.

                I agree though his biggest asset is that he can fight like a featherweight in the WW division and not get tired. Could be because he's a small WW.

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                • fragilety
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by mushahadeen
                  Another guy who doesn't know boxing.

                  HELLO if you watch Pacquiao's lighter weights he threw nothing but 1-2's hoping to land his big left. He didn't start throwing an effective right until about the second Morales fight, and he didn't start using angles effectively until the David Diaz fight.

                  DUH.
                  this is actually spot on, exactly what i was going to say.. props

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                  • -MAKAVELLI-
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Aiwass
                    If you study Pacquiao's career, he fights the same way he's fought his whole career,



                    i stopped right here


                    can someone lend this guy a clue?

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                    • Oasis_Lad
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by -pound4pound-
                      i stopped right here


                      can someone lend this guy a clue?
                      I'll lend him a gun, then he can end his life, and save us from another one of his ****** fucking threads.

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