wtf? bute rated #1 by ring

[jrosales13]

u fuckin wit me right?

You don't think that Zuniga was probably just as good as a win than what Miranda was for Ward? Or Berrio being a better win than Miranda since Berrio was ranked in the top 10 and Miranda was not?

[oaklandstephen]

Miranda? Oh yea the guy Pavlik KO'd? And, a guy who got KO'd by AA also before fighting Ward.

Berrio? Oh yea Berrio a top 10 fighter who was a an IBF title holder. Berrio who was coming off 2 KO victories over Yusaf Mack who right now is ranked in the top 10 LHW and over Steiglitz who right now is a top 10 SMW. So lets not act like Berrio was a bum coming into the fight with Bute. He was a legit top 10 fighter at the time.

And, my bad I didn't try to offend you. Zuniga and Berrio are names hardcore fans should know. Casual fans say who to those names. Is like if I talk about Edison Miranda best wins would be Green and Eastman. I would expect hardcore fans to know who Eastman is but I would expect the casual fan to say who to Eastman.

i know who they r sonny i was saying who as in what have they done and who have they beat.

[The Hammer]

Berrio was top 10 SMW at the time.

And, this rankings not lineal title. In rankings body of work is what matters. If Kessler was the lineal champion then yes Ward would be #1 cuz Ward would be the lineal champ. However, the was no lineal title involved. So now with the rankings we have to go with the body of work. And, Bute body of work is better than Wards at the moment. Bute is #1.

Yes.

Berrio, who is very similar to Miranda, was IBF champion at the time he fought Bute. Bute's win over Berrio was more impressive than Ward's win over Miranda, since he knocked Berrio out.

Bute has FOUR wins over top ten super middleweights: Berrio (who at the time was Ring top ten), Bika and Andrade x 2. He also has a win over tough-as-they-come top 25 super middleweight Zuniga, who knocked Kelly Pavlik down.

Ward has faced only ONE top 10 opponent (Kessler), and only two top 50 opponents, Miranda and Kessler.

Kessler is better than anyone Bute has ever faced, but overall, Bute has a better resume than Ward.

[oaklandstephen]

Yes.

Berrio, who is very similar to Miranda, was IBF champion at the time he fought Bute. Bute's win over Berrio was more impressive than Ward's win over Miranda, since he knocked Berrio out.

Bute has FOUR wins over top ten super middleweights: Berrio (who at the time was Ring top ten), Bika and Andrade x 2. He also has a win over tough-as-they-come top 25 super middleweight Zuniga, who knocked Kelly Pavlik down.

Ward has faced only ONE top 10 opponent (Kessler), and only two top 50 opponents, Miranda and Kessler.

Kessler is better than anyone Bute has ever faced, but overall, Bute has a better resume than Ward.

take away miranda from wards record and he should still be #1

[jrosales13]

take away miranda from wards record and he should still be #1

How? Why???

[potatoes]

Do normal people take these arbitrary ratings seriously?

[oaklandstephen]

How? Why???

1) undefeated gold medalist
2) he beat kessler who was #1
thats all u need

[oaklandstephen]

Do normal people take these arbitrary ratings seriously?

doubt it .............

[billionaire]

ring magazine is full of dorks, this is worse than cottos rating.......butes only had 4 defenses against no names.......

[jrosales13]

1) undefeated gold medalist
2) he beat kessler who was #1
thats all u need

So being a gold medalist is one of the criteria that decides where you rank as a pro?