Not one boxing expert picking Mosley?

[DIB42]

No one is picking Mosley to win this fight (except dougie) because its very likely that Floyd will win this one.

If i had to bet on this one (and wasn't trying to take odds) I'd bet on Mayweather.

[DiegoFuego]

Hey how did dwyer break down the fight?
that dude is point on for the most part

haven't checked. the only time I really remember him screwing up a fight was when he picked Malignaggi over Hatton just because he thought Hatton was prone to left hooks. lol, if Malignaggi had a punch, maybe that would have mattered.

[paulf]

This fight, though seems MUCH closer to me than Mayweather-Marquez or Mayweather-Hatton or even Mayweather-De La Hoya. I just want to know why NOBODY is picking Mosley. That's all this is. No hidden agenda here.

People are tired of picking against Floyd and looking like fools? Id say Mosely is pretty dangerous, but we have no idea if the Mosely that fought Margarito or the Mosely that fought Mayorga is going to show up.

[DiegoFuego]

No one is picking Mosley to win this fight (except dougie) because its very likely that Floyd will win this one.

If i had to bet on this one (and wasn't trying to take odds) I'd bet on Mayweather.

yes, but my point is a handful of experts picked Marquez, tons picked Hatton and a ridiculous amount picked Oscar. I think Mosley stands a better chance than all of them. So either they are getting more respect for Mayweather or they just don't want to take a risk on a fight this big.

[DiegoFuego]

People are tired of picking against Floyd and looking like fools? Id say Mosely is pretty dangerous, but we have no idea if the Mosely that fought Margarito or the Mosely that fought Mayorga is going to show up.

could be the case

[Walt Liquor]

I'm considering all, but I don't recall Doug Fischer ever adding anything insightful in the analysis of a fight that wasn't universally accepted.

1. Al Bernstein - breaks down fights better than anyone, has been slipping in recent years but very good body of work
2. Roy Jones Jr. - not a writer, but the best in-fight analyst maybe of all time. watch some of the work he did for HBO in 2004 and 2005
3. Steve Farhood - no description necessary, guys is a genius
4. Graham Houston - who doesn't go to him before a big fight?
5. Compubox - Not sure who their writer is but always worth a look to see how they see it going
6. Jake Emen - think he's the guy who does the picks at Pro Boxing. feel like he's been on a tear over the last year and a half, but maybe it's an assortment of writers
7. Manny Steward - yeah, he always says, "This is how I saw this fight playing out" regardless of what happens, but when he's not doing the commentary for the fight, he's allowed to make a pick and usually gets it right
8. Dwyre - It's obvious the guy hasn't followed boxing his whole life or anything, but he understands handicapping and he sees things that sadly enough 90% of this forum doesn't seem able to (I know we have a lot of young people and UFC fans but come on)
9. Tim Smith
10. Lance Pugmire
11. Kieran Mulvaney - often makes a pick and goes with his heart more than he should but overall good
12. Bert Sugar - has been losing his mind in recent years but still trust his fight breakdowns more often than not
13. SC at Bad Left Hook
14. Freddie Roach - Love him or hate him, he has a knack for seeing how fights play out
15. Kevin Iole - he's not horrible but probably the worst of this bunch

It's hard to remember what each guy said about every fight in recent years, but those are the ones I put the most stock in off the top of my head.

Still, I'll listen to Doug over Teddy Atlas 9 times out of 10

I think the bold could definitely be removed from your likst.
Kiernan picks who he likes too much
Sugar is really just an analysis guy, he doesn't make picks a lot of the time any more. It's like he's scared to be wrong. If you read his analyses, you would think every fight is 50-50
Iole is a joke and NEVER adds anything or has an interesting angle.

D Fish is much better. He's climbing the ranks of boxing analysts pretty quickly and doing a lot of commentary.

Graham HOuston hasn't done his pick yet, i think it should come out today.

[DIB42]

yes, but my point is a handful of experts picked Marquez, tons picked Hatton and a ridiculous amount picked Oscar. I think Mosley stands a better chance than all of them. So either they are getting more respect for Mayweather or they just don't want to take a risk on a fight this big.

I see your point and raise you my own... Alot of people really fealt hatton had a good shot, he was in his prime, Mayweather was comming off a split decision against Oscar, so alot of people fealt (myself included) that ricky was a little fast and alot more rougher than Oscar was at that point in his career, and that ricky would bully his way to floyd and outwork him on the inside.

The oscar prediction made sense too, Floyd was moving up in weight to take on Oscar, and though Oscar was declining we weren't ready to let go until the manny fight.

The Marquez prediction was ridiculous, I thought there was no way in hell Marquez would win that fight... Perhaps people were picking him because he was comming off of some good wins, and floyd was comming off a lay-off.

In hindsight, mosely does stand a better chance than all of them, but we didn't see that until after the fight.

If i hadn't seen any of those fights and somehow they were all happening tomorrrow heres my quick breakdown.

Ricky - Will win by fighting floyd on the inside and turning the boxing match into a brawl

Oscar - Will win with his left hand, he's oscar freakin delahoya for pete's sake

Marquez - why is floyd fighting him? must be a tune up, the guy needs to stay in the smaller weight classes.

Shane mosely - Comming off over a year layoff, got outboxed by cotto and floyds a better boxer than cotto, struggled against mayorga, had a very impressive win over a tailor made/not in the right state of mind Margaritto... styles make fights.


I think in this fight, anything could happen, thats why i'm going to throw money at it... but if I ABSOLUTELY had to bet, i'd bet on Floyd

[Walt Liquor]

dwyer's early pick was pickum and houston has floyd UD.

[Walt Liquor]

farhood-mayweather by wide ud, mostly based on the cotto/shane fight

tim smith- kiernan, pugmire- may by ud

the only other major boxing analyst name besides douggie I have come up with picking Shane is Joe Santoliquito.

[Walt Liquor]

houston-

I simply can’t see Mosley winning, though. Mayweather has, for me, the better jab and the greater level of skill. Mosley will no doubt seek to keep the pressure on Mayweather, trying to keep him from settling into a rhythm, to back him up, if he can, and outwork and outfight him. However, I think that Mayweather can roll with the punches, weather Mosley’s attacks and come back with sharp punching to regain command.

I see Mosley being tenacious and tough but I think that Mayweather will find the answers. Mayweather’s jab and his crisp right hands can pile up points and I think that his physical strength might surprise Mosley. I feel that Mayweather is in his prime at 33 while Mosley, coming up for 38, has been in many wars and might have been flattered by the Margarito performance. It would be very surprising if Mayweather stopped Mosley but I do believe he can outpoint him clearly in a competitive contest that will reflect credit on both boxers.