BOXING needs SMALLER GLOVES!!!

[Kball15]

The gloves just keep getting bigger and bigger.

And bigger gloves suck out the most important part of boxing, the drama. Its hard to hurt a guy with massive 10 ounce gloves on a junior welterweight. Look at Hatton, the gloves nearly reach his elbows!!!!

The greatest thing MMA has going for it right now, is in a dull boring fight, u still get that very real sensation that at any moment, any fighter can knock out any opponent, no matter how far behind.

Boxing has lost that with this big gloves. And its not like boxing purists could complain if we suddenly went back to smaller gloves because thats how it was back in the day.

ANd dont think im some selfish prick. It would be SAFER for the fighters. They wouldnt take sustained beatings to the head. Let me ask you this. Do you think for a second that Jesse Feliciano would have gotten out of that first round if the gloves were half the size? No, he would gotten KO'd about 10 seconds after that first KD.

This way the fighters, like Feliciano, dont take rediculous beatings over or 10 or 12 rounds, and then do it again a few months later.

Not to mention, more excitment means more money for the fighters.

If MMA can get away with practically no gloves, i cannot see why boxing doesnt make smaller gloves.

Look back to the olden days for proof that its safer. RARE deaths, and fighters would fight hundreds of times and still live healthy lives well into their 90's. ****, isnt Carmen Basilio and Jake Lamotta still alive?!?!?!?!

But look at today, you have guys that fight 40-50 times and are practically brain dead!

C'mon seriously

[Burner]

I dont want to see our fighters seriously hurt..this is a sport....a way to feed their families.....nothing more.

[Kball15]

I dont want to see our fighters seriously hurt..this is a sport....a way to feed their families.....nothing more.

exactly, SMALLER GLOVES ARE SAFER!!!

And im not saying turn Boxing into MMA without the wrestling and kicking, im saying make the gloves proportional the fighters. Look at Supermiddleweights. They wear MASSIVE gloves!!!!

[deanrw]

Angelo Dundee once said, that if you want to remove serious head injuries and deaths in the sport, move back to bare knuckles.

What he said is true as you would not see fighters tee off over and over again. Smaller gloves I think are a better idea. The knockouts woud be cleaner, less sustained beatings etc. Bigger gloves really only help the hands of the guy dishing out the punishment.

[-Antonio-]

I can deal with everything dropping down 2 more ounces, but anything lower than that, and it's not boxing to me. It becomes too KO oriented.

But why mess with what we have now? I don't see anything wrong with what I watch every weekend. Boxing needs a lot of things, but changing rules for entertainment value isn't one of them.

[Left2body]

I know that Margarito vs Cotto in Vegas is going to have 8oz gloves. I hope this becomes a general rule change and not just an exception. 10oz's does seem excessively big for jrWW's and I've said this for a long time.

I know Vegas made the change with the intent of making it safer for boxers but is there any medical evidence that shows larger gloves are safer than smaller gloves for boxers in the long term?

Like mentioned above, there are guys who have been KO'd a lot of times in MMA but dont show any of the slurring or stuttering that some boxers who have never been KO'd show. Randy Couture, Vanderlei Silva, Cabbage.

We also dont see guys dying from quick KO's we see it from boxers who have taken a prolonged beating and larger gloves sizes increases the chances of that to some extent.

[mrpain81]

I've always thought if they had brass knuckles it would be more exciting, maybe people from the crowd can start throwing baseball bats and crowbars in the ring.


Risk per Million Participants

Bare-Knuckle Pugilism

n August 1824, an anonymous writer for the Annals of Sporting and Fancy Gazette (volume 6, page 179) reported that there were 859 prizefights in England between 1719 and 1824. The Data document 24 deaths in England during that period. There are two participants per match, so the death rate for eighteenth century English bare-knuckle pugilism appears to be about 14,000 deaths per million participants ([24 deaths/[859 fights x 2 participants] x 1,000,000).

Professional Boxing

During 2002 and 2003, the Nevada State Athletic Commission approved about 113 bouts per month between male professional boxers, and another 2.5 bouts per month between female professional boxers. For source documentation, see http://boxing.nv.gov.

From January 1979 to May 2003, there were 293 months. This idiosyncratic period was used so that calculations would be directly comparable to Original Toughman. The Data document the deaths of five male boxers in Nevada during those 293 months. Thus, the death rate for male professional boxers in Nevada appears to be about 76 deaths per million participants (5 deaths/[293 months x {113 bouts per month x 2 fighters per bout}] x 1,000,000).

http://ejmas.com/jcs/jcsart_svinth_a_0700.htm

Smaller gloves or no gloves safer?

[-Hyperion-]

I've always thought if they had brass knuckles it would be more exciting, maybe people from the crowd can start throwing baseball bats and crowbars in the ring.


Risk per Million Participants

Bare-Knuckle Pugilism

n August 1824, an anonymous writer for the Annals of Sporting and Fancy Gazette (volume 6, page 179) reported that there were 859 prizefights in England between 1719 and 1824. The Data document 24 deaths in England during that period. There are two participants per match, so the death rate for eighteenth century English bare-knuckle pugilism appears to be about 14,000 deaths per million participants ([24 deaths/[859 fights x 2 participants] x 1,000,000).

Professional Boxing

During 2002 and 2003, the Nevada State Athletic Commission approved about 113 bouts per month between male professional boxers, and another 2.5 bouts per month between female professional boxers. For source documentation, see http://boxing.nv.gov.

From January 1979 to May 2003, there were 293 months. This idiosyncratic period was used so that calculations would be directly comparable to Original Toughman. The Data document the deaths of five male boxers in Nevada during those 293 months. Thus, the death rate for male professional boxers in Nevada appears to be about 76 deaths per million participants (5 deaths/[293 months x {113 bouts per month x 2 fighters per bout}] x 1,000,000).

http://ejmas.com/jcs/jcsart_svinth_a_0700.htm

Smaller gloves or no gloves safer?

like antonio said..maybe 2 pounds...

anything more and its just palin sick to me...

[MikeBrew328]

Yeah but that was back inthe 1800's. The referees today are actually humans. Up until about 1980, if you could stand the fight was still going.

[Steak]

I've always thought if they had brass knuckles it would be more exciting, maybe people from the crowd can start throwing baseball bats and crowbars in the ring.


Risk per Million Participants

Bare-Knuckle Pugilism

n August 1824, an anonymous writer for the Annals of Sporting and Fancy Gazette (volume 6, page 179) reported that there were 859 prizefights in England between 1719 and 1824. The Data document 24 deaths in England during that period. There are two participants per match, so the death rate for eighteenth century English bare-knuckle pugilism appears to be about 14,000 deaths per million participants ([24 deaths/[859 fights x 2 participants] x 1,000,000).

Professional Boxing

During 2002 and 2003, the Nevada State Athletic Commission approved about 113 bouts per month between male professional boxers, and another 2.5 bouts per month between female professional boxers. For source documentation, see http://boxing.nv.gov.

From January 1979 to May 2003, there were 293 months. This idiosyncratic period was used so that calculations would be directly comparable to Original Toughman. The Data document the deaths of five male boxers in Nevada during those 293 months. Thus, the death rate for male professional boxers in Nevada appears to be about 76 deaths per million participants (5 deaths/[293 months x {113 bouts per month x 2 fighters per bout}] x 1,000,000).

http://ejmas.com/jcs/jcsart_svinth_a_0700.htm

Smaller gloves or no gloves safer?

although you also have to take into account that when they used to fight with no gloves, the guy could get up as much as he wanted, the refs werent very good and wouldnt stop fights, and the fights went on for more rounds.

but still, bareknuckle is very dangerous, cause youre talking about pure bone right there...knuckles are sharp, and can cut right into someones temple and do serious damage to the skull.

but I do agree that the gloves at times are getting a little bit too big. like 10oz gloves for 140 lbers? thats crappy. looks like theyre sparring half the time. yet at the same time, if we made them too small, everyone would be knocked out in seconds because of how hard boxers hit...

so say for 140lb guys I think its more fair to make it 6-8oz gloves instead of 10. but it should be slightly proportionate to size too.
just have to find a good weight thats not too big and not too little.