my froch vs abraham prediction

[THE REED]

His fight at 168 against Pavlik, he boxed well, but didn't show half the power he showed at 160 against Pavlik. Now that can mean he was just gunshy, or he just is not that powerful at 168. He DID catch Pavlik with some nice shots, and didn't phase Pavlik. Same shots at 160 had Pavlik on ***** street and down on all fours.

Amyways, if it was indeed Taylor's power instead of Froch's chin. I'm pretty sure Abraham has more power than Taylor at 168, if he catches Froch it's lights out.

Well, first off it was a contracted weight of 166lbs. Which neither fighter made, they both came in at 164lbs.

Second, Jermain came into the first fight with all of his confidence, he came in to win.. he came in to hurt. Therefore, the punches he threw were punches meant to disable Pavlik, and they did to an extent.

In the rematch, he came to win... to a degree. But more or less survive. He came to box, and play it smart. He didn't necessrily come to hurt, and I didn't see the same conviction he threw his shots in the rematch, that he did in the first fight, with Pavlik.

Against Froch... I saw some of that conviction back, and a few of the right hands he let go, had some steam on them.. As I'm sure Carl himself felt.

[rizkybizness]

If theres gonna be any upset in the fight, it's gonna be Carl Froch stopping Abraham who is basically a walking punch bag for half of the fight.

your boy isn't knocking anyone out.

[BattlingNelson]

It's also the mentality of the two fighters.

Dirrells mentality gave him an advantage over AA, besides his natural attributes.

He wants to hit and not get it. He wants to get in and get out before you can fire back. This was advantageous big time for Dirrell. Couple that mentality with his raw talents of speed an athleticism and it's a bad match up for AA.

With Froch, he wants to fight, and he wants you to fight as well. He wants to be in your face, and he wants to apply pressure and use his toughness to break you. He's a fighter.

IMO, this is a bad mentality for Froch, because you simply do not want stand there and trade shots with AA, because I think anybody in the tournament will lose that kind of fight.

Couple that with Froch's lack of defense... and I simply do not see it going well for Carly.

Good points. Yeah Froch will have to employ a different approach than he usually does. He'll have to be more on the move. If he can be on the move and box with great discipline he can win. Going in and fight AA is like signing your own death warrant.

[BattlingNelson]

bat, i got 20M on AA KO'ing Froch

i know i dont have enough points. it's cool though, reed's my banker

Ok. I'll give you 8:1 odds. Reed covers me as well.

[rizkybizness]

Ok. I'll give you 8:1 odds. Reed covers me as well.

that's why i love you, man

you ever come to miami, i'll make sure you have some legit hispanic food.

[street bully]

I hear people saying the key is Froches footwork. Thats absurd imo. Direll has the fastest feet in the tournament and moves the best, and he was an inch away from eating some nasty haymakers more that a few times, and he is about ten times faster than Froch, and depends on movement to win fightsas well. karl on the other hand does not depend on footwork, and it takes more than one training camp to become a stick and move fighter, so I don't think he can do it. He might try, and would do even worse, because Karl can not fight off the back foot. After a few rounds roch with go gun ho, do pretty well for a few rounds, and then start taking shots. These shots will hurt him, he will try to survive, but doesn't know how to move well, and will get tracked down and knocked out nicely. You can bank on that.

[BattlingNelson]

I hear people saying the key is Froches footwork. Thats absurd imo. Direll has the fastest feet in the tournament and moves the best, and he was an inch away from eating some nasty haymakers more that a few times, and he is about ten times faster than Froch, and depends on movement to win fightsas well. karl on the other hand does not depend on footwork, and it takes more than one training camp to become a stick and move fighter, so I don't think he can do it. He might try, and would do even worse, because Karl can not fight off the back foot. After a few rounds roch with go gun ho, do pretty well for a few rounds, and then start taking shots. These shots will hurt him, he will try to survive, but doesn't know how to move well, and will get tracked down and knocked out nicely. You can bank on that.

Dirrell fought like a frightened faggot in that fight. The Dirrell that fought AA would have schooled Froch.

[BattlingNelson]

that's why i love you, man

you ever come to miami, i'll make sure you have some legit hispanic food.

Sounds great. Would that be pizza?

[theIrish]

It's also the mentality of the two fighters.

Dirrells mentality gave him an advantage over AA, besides his natural attributes.

He wants to hit and not get it. He wants to get in and get out before you can fire back. This was advantageous big time for Dirrell. Couple that mentality with his raw talents of speed an athleticism and it's a bad match up for AA.

With Froch, he wants to fight, and he wants you to fight as well. He wants to be in your face, and he wants to apply pressure and use his toughness to break you. He's a fighter.

IMO, this is a bad mentality for Froch, because you simply do not want stand there and trade shots with AA, because I think anybody in the tournament will lose that kind of fight.

Couple that with Froch's lack of defense... and I simply do not see it going well for Carly.

- Froch's defense is underrated Kessler landed 19% of his blows on Froch (Kessler had a connect percentage of 30% against Calzaghe and 49% against Andrade)

- Abrahams knockout ability is overrated yes he has a big gun but he is inacurate and got very poor finishing abilities. He had to go the distance with Lajuan Simon, Kofi Jantuah and Shannan Taylor (a former welterweight wo got stopped several times).

- Abraham isn't that much of a warrior yes he says that he is a though warrior but he hides behind his shell. He refused to quit and fought on against Miranda with a broken jaw? wrong Abraham told his corner that he wanted to quit several times his trainer Uli Wegner was the guy who pushed him through.

When it comes down to toughness Carl proved that he is a tough bastard a true Housecarl.
Abraham i think he might be an imposter.

I think Carl will outscore him and he can also knock him out. The Saxon got a nasty uppercut quiz time now what type of punch broke Abrahams jaw? Joppers it was an uppercut.
And while Miranda is just an one-handed bum with no defense Froch is a two-handed fighter with an underrated defense a solid amateur background and great finisher abilities.

[Ivansmamma]

Honestly i don't see any way for Abraham to lose this fight except if he punches Froch when he takes a knee and Froch starts to cry. Im gonna put some money on this fight.