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  • #51
    Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
    Both Floyd and Pacman are clearly greater than Hopkins - whether you'd like to include Roy Jones in this era is debatable - but he's clearly greater as well.
    thats your opinion about floyd, lol, i totally disagree with that, lol, he takes little vrisk and he fought few great names but hes a top 6 in this era, lol, the fact that floyds resume never had that career defining win by defeating a prime hall of fame legend in his prime or as much hall of famers as others, lol, hes hard to sell for me, lol, floyd fought rarely in this era like once a year and he took many vacations, lol, hre has good wins against many journeymen champs, true story



    by the way , lol, b11tch azz roy jones jr is a piece of sh11t but that being said, lol, hes greater to me than manny , b.hop and wlad, lol, roy is a with the lewis, de la hoya and trinidad era, , lol, **** roy though
    Last edited by Tha_Greatest; 08-07-2014, 05:08 PM.

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    • #52
      top p4p right now Floyd is #1 with Hopkins at #2 Ward #3. Floyd is the best of our generation hands downs, could even be the best ever...

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Pugilist95 View Post
        Anyone else agree?
        He's the best at jab right hand hold far superior than Wlad

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        • #54
          Originally posted by j.razor View Post
          top p4p right now Floyd is #1 with Hopkins at #2 Ward #3. Floyd is the best of our generation hands downs, could even be the best ever...
          that is not a fact, lol, that is your opinion and it is hard to make, lol, you can try to make your case but ill still wont be convinced, lol, floyd is nowhere close to the greatest ever in my opinion, lol, in fact, lol, hes not the best of this era alone

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          • #55
            He is in the discussion.

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            • #56
              Dwyer speaks about this and he is certain that floyd mayweather is a much better fighter.

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              • #57
                If Hopkins beats Kovalev convincingly, I'd have to say he is. Given his age, you have to associate his ability to win with smarts and technical skills.

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                • #58

                  First thing first, Hopkins lied about the Thomas Williams IBF story, and also lied about the phone call he never received from Stevenson clan. He deliberately insisted to inflate his purse, with consequences of disrupting the negotiations between him and Adonis Stevenson. Which is a clear proof of how he has already made an agreement with Kathy Duva.
                  The issue is, in July Bernard Hopkins suddently requested to be paid 5 millions (70%) for the unification against Adonis Stevenson.
                  But the original deal was for (50%) 3.5 millions each contenders.
                  Rejecting the idea of being paid 3.5 millions (50%), Hopkins decided to agree a reduced (70%) deal with Kovalev.
                  That (70%) is 2 millions, which give Kovalev (30%) 650 000$...

                  The Question is WHY would you reject a 3.5 millions deal against X, and agree for a 2 millions deal against Y.
                  Originally posted by Stephen Espinoza View Post
                  "It did surprise me simply because he took less money to fight Kovalev. At this stage of his career, Bernard has been very clear that he wants to maximize revenues. That's the way it surprised me. But from a boxing perspective it's part of the business. he wanted to take on Kovalev and I don't fault him for that. If he wants the Kovalev fight, then at this stage of his career he has a handful of fights left, if that, and if he wants to prioritize that fight I'm not going to hold it against him," Espinoza told BoxingScene.com.
                  I believe Hopkins saw more flaws in Kovalev's game than in Stevenson, which he could exploited.
                  But the main reason is the business/beneficial way to compile money.
                  You see, Stevenson always wanted to fight both (Hopkins & Kovalev), but he wanted to follow an order to generate more money.
                  Since Stevenson got under Showtime, his new plan was to have a megafight with Hopkins for 3.5 millions pulling the Undisputed Champion title, and closing the lite Heavyweight loop with the most anticipated boxing FANBASE fight between him and Kovalev for MUCH MORE.
                  But Hopkins understood Stevenson path to racks more money, and decide to pick his plan, by pursuing Kovalev before closing the circle with Stevenson.
                  Which mean he got a deal with Stevenson, but swap network, fix a 2 millions deal with Kovalev, believing he'll pull out a victory; and close the lite Heavyweight loop with the most honorable way to complete the chapter of his legacy, by TRYING to defeat the man who beat the man, for more than 5 millions.
                  But the main trigger begins when Kathy Duva created her lawsuit scam, to plot a settlement under table with Golden Boy for dropping this phony lawsuit in exchange of an unification bout between Hopkins and her protege Kovalev, and thus make Stevenson-Michel-Haymon stumble in the process.
                  Which is the reason why this Lawsuit got dropped the day after Hopkins and Kovalev reached an agreement to unify their titles. Golden Boy team weren't bright enough to realise this lawsuit was going nowhere, otherwise HBO would have backed up this phony complaint. But Golden Boy have taken the bait, due to the fact they also needed an excuse to reconnect with HBO.

                  So when Hopkins says he checkmate Stevenson, it's a designed figure of speech to show how he outguess Stevenson's plans, to stack more money than Stevenson would have done if the plan would have still been under Stevenson's control. By believing he was clever, Hopkins prostrated before Witch Duva. In reality, it wasn't a checkmate at all against Stevenson, he cheated. But the worst part about this, it's Kathy Duva who outplayed Hopkins with a Royal flush.

                  The logic of this story is that Stevenson will unify all the major titles, but instead of doing it in 2 gainful fights, Hopkins has tampered the cards so that Stevenson is left with only one lucrative meaningful fight.
                  But Adonis Stevenson message was and still remain the same, he wants to become the Undisputed champion of this division.
                  So his target will remain the same; and (no Campillo nor Jean Pascal) will hold him back to reach his goal.
                  Last edited by TheThirdEye; 08-30-2015, 05:23 PM.

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