Who is the King of 140 to everyone?

Floyd is my pick
but thats probaly because he is my favorite active boxer

Until someone can beat Floyd, he is my pick. No one in that group is as skilled as Mayweather. Only one way to find out...

Hatton is. Hatton beat Tzyu the man who ruled the 140 lbs division for a decade. It does not matter what potentential or anything else Mayweather or Cotto have. Tzyu was the man in this weight class for a decade. Former undisputed champion, went through all contenders like Mitchell Judah etc... Hatton beat him, that makes him for sure the king of 140 lbs until somebody beats him.

Until somebody beats Hatton he is number I at 140 pounds. Hatton is the linear Champion. Everybody else in the division that has belts has them because Tzyu vacated them.

Hatton is. Hatton beat Tzyu the man who ruled the 140 lbs division for a decade. It does not matter what potentential or anything else Mayweather or Cotto have. Tzyu was the man in this weight class for a decade. Former undisputed champion, went through all contenders like Mitchell Judah etc... Hatton beat him, that makes him for sure the king of 140 lbs until somebody beats him.

Until somebody beats Hatton he is number I at 140 pounds. Hatton is the linear Champion. Everybody else in the division that has belts has them because Tzyu vacated them.

Skill wise, Mayweather is on a different level than Hatton. As many openings as Hatton leaves vulnerable I just don't see him being able to be as effective with his aggression as he was with Tszyu. Easy way to answer this is to check the pound for pound rankings. Everyone has Floyd in the Top 3 while Hatton just entered the Top 10. Only way to truly solve this is for them to step in the ring.

Skill wise, Mayweather is on a different level than Hatton. As many openings as Hatton leaves vulnerable I just don't see him being able to be as effective with his aggression as he was with Tszyu. Easy way to answer this is to check the pound for pound rankings. Everyone has Floyd in the Top 3 while Hatton just entered the Top 10. Only way to truly solve this is for them to step in the ring.

You can say Gatti or Mayweather can beat Hatton in fantasy matchup all you like. It does not change the fact that Hatton is the true Champion of 140 since he is the one who beat Tzyu, The Linear Champion and former undisputed Champion until he vacated several of the belts. If Mayweather or Cotto or Judah beat Tzyu then they would be the true champion but they did not, Hatton did. When did the rule that if you beat the Champion you become Champion become nullified?

Ricky Hatton is king right now.

I agree, Hatton is the King of 140lbs. in terms of accomplishments. He beat the man. Mayweather only beat DeMarcus Corley and Henry Bruseles at that weight division so he can't be considered the king in terms of accomplishments. Skills and pound for pound ranking, I'd say Mayweather, though.

Who is the King of 140 to everyone?

Floyd is my pick
but thats probaly because he is my favorite active boxer


HAHA certainly not Floyd. UR NOT the 140 king by beating Corely and Brussels. If anybody its Hatton by default, but i think there is none right now. Hatton has to beat the winner of Gatti/Mayweather or Vivian Harris depending on who good Harris looks June 25th. AND it is certainly not that Cotto fool.

HAHA certainly not Floyd. UR NOT the 140 king by beating Corely and Brussels. If anybody its Hatton by default, but i think there is none right now. Hatton has to beat the winner of Gatti/Mayweather or Vivian Harris depending on who good Harris looks June 25th. AND it is certainly not that Cotto fool.
hey Thunder Boy, ur a confident man lets bet on the Gatti beatdown. Ill put 5 million on it, you wanna take it big man?

Mayweather is easily the best at 140, no one will beat him there, I dont see floyd loosing a fight till he is at 147 or 154, and that might be a long time from now,

zoo is still the king of 140 in my eyes evendo he was a quiter ...

Gatti can easily beats Hatton
Hattons beat Zoo.
Mayweather will beat Hatton.
Zoo can easily beat Mayweather. He's the type of fighter Zoo likes.
An elim fight they have now still wouldn't decided it.
I think a Gatti and zoo fight would be awesome

Gatti can beat maywether if Gatti slugs it out like Hatton did to Zoo.
Mayweather likes a slow paced fight so he can use the left shoulder and leave his right hand high. He'll get exposed in a slugfest with his style. In a slugfest Roger has to drop the right hand to throw punches and that is leaves open his biggest weakness in his style, an exposed rightside jaw.

If Hatton rematches Tszyu, Tszyu will be the king again.

Until then, the one and only KING is Hatton.

We all know that Floyd is skillful, Gatti has a huge heart, and that Vivian Harris is young and powerful, but that is not enough.

Mayweather hasn't achieved much thus far in the 140lbs division and therefore can not be considered a king yet.

So fellas, you can't take the status away from Ricky Hatton.......he definitely deserves to be as he beat the man who dominated the division for a decade.....

zoo is still the king of 140 in my eyes evendo he was a quiter ...
i think KT has already given up the game. not for being a quitter, but i think he's just move on...

if PFB wins over gatti, it's a toss up between floyd and hatton

Gatti can easily beats Hatton
Hattons beat Zoo.
Mayweather will beat Hatton.
Zoo can easily beat Mayweather. He's the type of fighter Zoo likes.
An elim fight they have now still wouldn't decided it.
I think a Gatti and zoo fight would be awesome

Gatti can beat maywether if Gatti slugs it out like Hatton did to Zoo.
Mayweather likes a slow paced fight so he can use the left shoulder and leave his right hand high. He'll get exposed in a slugfest with his style. In a slugfest Roger has to drop the right hand to throw punches and that is leaves open his biggest weakness in his style, an exposed rightside jaw.

Zoo would not easily beat Mayweather. Also Mayweather will never get exposed because he fights only one style of fighta nd has the skills to take other fighters out of their game. The dismantling of Gatti will be a little preview of what Hatton has to look foward too.

[QUOTE=ricecrispi]Gatti can easily beats Hatton
Hattons beat Zoo.
Mayweather will beat Hatton.
Zoo can easily beat Mayweather. He's the type of fighter Zoo likes.
An elim fight they have now still wouldn't decided it.
I think a Gatti and zoo fight would be awesome

Gatti can beat maywether if Gatti slugs it out like Hatton did to Zoo.
Mayweather likes a slow paced fight so he can use the left shoulder and leave his right hand high. He'll get exposed in a slugfest with his style. In a slugfest Roger has to drop the right hand to throw punches and that is leaves open his biggest weakness in his style, an exposed rightside jaw.[/QUOTE

Mayweather will also Ko Hatton after a few tough rounds. He is to fast and is to accurate for someone who walks straight in.

I have to say Hatton is the linear champ and therefore he is king even if he is still relatively unproven. I think he needs to beat the Mayweather/Gatti winner and Cotto to put it beyond any doubt.

PS. I didn't leave Harris out by accident.

i think KT has already given up the game. not for being a quitter, but i think he's just move on...

if PFB wins over gatti, it's a toss up between floyd and hatton
I don't think it'll be a toss up between the two. Floyd beating Gatti doesn't come close to Hatton beating Tszyu.

I know Gatti has a lot of fans and he is an exciting fighter, but he looks shot these days. He won't beat Floyd Mayweather.

If Floyd wants to be the king at 140lbs Then he has to dethrone the king at 140lbs, and that means taking on Ricky Hatton.

I don't think it'll be a toss up between the two. Floyd beating Gatti doesn't come close to Hatton beating Tszyu.

I know Gatti has a lot of fans and he is an exciting fighter, but he looks shot these days. He won't beat Floyd Mayweather.

If Floyd wants to be the king at 140lbs Then he has to dethrone the king at 140lbs, and that means taking on Ricky Hatton.

What has made you think Gatti looks shot these days. All these early round KO's he has been coming up with lately? Is that it?

If I could see any fight at 140 it is Gatti vs Hatton. I think Gatti and Hatton are the best in the division. I think Gatti will beat Gayweather. Hatton vs Gatti would be a total brawl. Both Hatton and Gatti though have underrated boxing skills.

What has made you think Gatti looks shot these days. All these early round KO's he has been coming up with lately? Is that it?
Gatti's level of competition is terrible for a WBC champion...

I've seen Gianluca Branco fight a few times on Eurosport and he's not really a very good fighter... yet he took Gatti to a close points descion.

James Leija is OLD OLD and tired... As is Leonard Dorin...

As soon as Gatti steps in the ring with someone under 35yrs of age and a bit more talented, (i.e. Mayweather) he's gonna look extremely old and shot. You'll see when the two fight.

Gatti's level of competition is terrible for a WBC champion...

I've seen Gianluca Branco fight a few times on Eurosport and he's not really a very good fighter... yet he took Gatti to a close points descion.

James Leija is OLD OLD and tired... As is Leonard Dorin...

As soon as Gatti steps in the ring with someone under 35yrs of age and a bit more talented, (i.e. Mayweather) he's gonna look extremely old and shot. You'll see when the two fight.





Gatti is gonna whoop Gayweather. Gatti is a more dangerous puncher than Hatton has ever faced. And Gatti will stand and FIGHT with Hatton which In my opinion the best way to go about beating him if you are fighting him in Manchester. You cant let yourself get bullied around and look to counterpunch like Tzyu did. You have to stand and FIGHT this guy.

Skill wise, Mayweather is on a different level than Hatton. As many openings as Hatton leaves vulnerable I just don't see him being able to be as effective with his aggression as he was with Tszyu. Easy way to answer this is to check the pound for pound rankings. Everyone has Floyd in the Top 3 while Hatton just entered the Top 10. Only way to truly solve this is for them to step in the ring.
at first i thought it would be nice to have pfb and KT fight each other. now i think hatton proved to be worthy in place of tszyu to fight mayweather to settle this issue.

although floyd is cosidered very excellent as a boxer, let us not forget that sluggers are best at creating problems to boxers

You missed the second part of the post.




Gatti is gonna whoop Gayweather. And you missed the second part of the post. Gatti is a more dangerous puncher than Hatton has ever faced. And Gatti will stand and FIGHT with Hatton which In my opinion the best way to go about beating him if you are fighting him in Manchester. You cant let yourself get bullied around and look to counterpunch like Tzyu did. You have to stand and FIGHT this guy.
im for gatti too

im for gatti too

How can anybody be against Gatti. The guy is a true class act, and a carries all the honor of a Gladiator from the Colleseum in Rome to the modern day. Every single fight he leaves it all out there, he never quits, he fights to his death or to his opponents like in the old days.

Gatti is gonna whoop Gayweather. And you missed the second part of the post. Gatti is a more dangerous puncher than Hatton has ever faced. And Gatti will stand and FIGHT with Hatton which In my opinion the best way to go about beating him if you are fighting him in Manchester. You cant let yourself get bullied around and look to counterpunch like Tzyu did. You have to stand and FIGHT this guy.
I dissagree with you... Gatti is there for the taking.

I'd rate him about 7th or 8th in the division.

Mayweather maybe a little feather fisted, but he'll just toy with Gatti. (I don't like Mayweather).

I don't wanna sound big-headed, but I'm very rarely wrong with my boxing predictions.

I think Hatton would take Gatti out in 3 rounds. Hatton is 3 times the speed and half the "boxing" age.

Like I said, Gatti is there for the taking and has been for a while.

I dissagree with you... Gatti is there for the taking.

I'd rate him about 7th or 8th in the division.

Mayweather maybe a little feather fisted, but he'll just toy with Gatti. (I don't like Mayweather).

I don't wanna sound big-headed, but I'm very rarely wrong with my boxing predictions.

I think Hatton would take Gatti out in 3 rounds. Hatton is 3 times the speed and half the "boxing" age.

Like I said, Gatti is there for the taking and has been for a while.

YOu are so wrong. So very wrong. Nobody is going to defeat Gatti without knocking his ass out cold or from the gift stoppage from the ref. Gayweather is gonna get knocked out and finally Gatti will get some respect. Nobody ever gives this guy any repect. He has beaten alot of high quality fighters. You say he is past his prime but lately he looks better than ever. Now he has a good jab and other assets.

I agree with the Hatton pick as the 140 lb king being "the man who beat the man".

How can anybody be against Gatti. The guy is a true class act, and a carries all the honor of a Gladiator from the Colleseum in Rome to the modern day. Every single fight he leaves it all out there, he never quits, he fights to his death or to his opponents like in the old days.
and to add, he has fought more blood thirsty warriors than pfb. ;)

I agree with the Hatton pick as the 140 lb king being "the man who beat the man".

Standard logic man. It eludes alot of people around here though unfortunately.

YOu are so wrong. So very wrong. Nobody is going to defeat Gatti without knocking his ass out cold or from the gift stoppage from the ref. Gayweather is gonna get knocked out and finally Gatti will get some respect. Nobody ever gives this guy any repect. He has beaten alot of high quality fighters. You say he is past his prime but lately he looks better than ever. Now he has a good jab and other assets.
Well I don't wanna pick holes... But you were telling me last week that if Tyson can get down to 220lbs he would rule the heavyweight division.

I tried to tell you that weight isn't gonna help Mike, he's a shot fighter.

I've been involved with boxing for many years, and if there's one thing I can see most clearly, it's when a fighter becomes shot.

Gatti has been involved in some GREAT fights over the years, and I love watching the guy fight... But he will not beat Mayweather. (Hey I don't like Mayweather either and it would be a fantastic end to Gatti's career to go out beating a guy like Mayweather, but it ain't gonna happen).

Well I don't wanna pick holes... But you were telling me last week that if Tyson can get down to 220lbs he would rule the heavyweight division.

I tried to tell you that weight isn't gonna help Mike, he's a shot fighter.

I've been involved with boxing for many years, and if there's one thing I can see most clearly, it's when a fighter becomes shot.

Gatti has been involved in some GREAT fights over the years, and I love watching the guy fight... But he will not beat Mayweather. (Hey I don't like Mayweather either and it would be a fantastic end to Gatti's career to go out beating a guy like Mayweather, but it ain't gonna happen).

My Tyson weight logic is compeltely valid.

Tyson record below 220 pounds undefeated

Tyson record above 230 1-3

Why do you think Gayweather is so invinciable? He already lost to Castillo and got a gift descision. And in my opinion Gatti is better than Castillo.

My Tyson weight logic is compeltely valid.

Tyson record below 220 pounds undefeated

Tyson record above 230 1-3
Mckay, you're sounding a little deluded...

There's a time when even the biggest fan of a fighter has to face the fact that there guy's not got it anymore.

Gatti is gonna whoop Gayweather. Gatti is a more dangerous puncher than Hatton has ever faced. And Gatti will stand and FIGHT with Hatton which In my opinion the best way to go about beating him if you are fighting him in Manchester. You cant let yourself get bullied around and look to counterpunch like Tzyu did. You have to stand and FIGHT this guy.

gatti si a more gangerous puncher than zoo now. :rolleyes:

your a ****ing cluless idiot mate.

though i do hope gatti beats PBF.

but no way is gatti more of a dangeorus puncher than kostya thats just bollox.

Mckay, you're sounding a little deluded...

There's a time when even the biggest fan of a fighter has to face the fact that there guy's not got it anymore.

What are you talking about. I predicted McBride to win.

I said straight up on the Tyson McBride predictions thread.

"I think McBride might whoop Tyson" Then everybody jeered me. Then they apologized.

gatti si a more gangerous puncher than zoo now. :rolleyes:

your a ****ing cluless idiot mate.

though i do hope gatti beats PBF.

but no way is gatti more of a dangeorus puncher than kostya thats just bollox.

LIke you know anything. The guy who sits there and has 30 post conversations with himself about where Mexico is and Costa Rica.

Gatti's level of competition is terrible for a WBC champion...

I've seen Gianluca Branco fight a few times on Eurosport and he's not really a very good fighter... yet he took Gatti to a close points descion.

James Leija is OLD OLD and tired... As is Leonard Dorin...

As soon as Gatti steps in the ring with someone under 35yrs of age and a bit more talented, (i.e. Mayweather) he's gonna look extremely old and shot. You'll see when the two fight.

Leija just won a hard fought decision against Bojado who was a very good prospect. Had he been as old as you say, Bojado would have ripped him apart. Tszyu broke his eardrum, Gatti knocked him out.

As for Dorin, this guy had plenty plenty of fight left in him. You don't get old cuz of your age, more of how much punishment you've taken in the ring and he's only had 22 fights. Unefeated who drawed with Spaddy where most saw him win then gets knocked out in two rounds.

Gatti ain't p4p king but the guy ain't as unskilled as everyone makes him out to be.

Why do you think Gayweather is so invinciable? He already lost to Castillo and got a gift descision. And in my opinion Gatti is better than Castillo.
I don't think Mayweather is invincible... I think Hatton would beat Mayweather.

But I've got a sneaky feeling Mayweather's doing a Roy Jones Junior, and fighting the weakest opponent and then gonna move up to welterweight and successfully avoid all the danger fighters at 140lb.

I don't think Mayweather is invincible... I think Hatton would beat Mayweather.

But I've got a sneaky feeling he's doing a Roy Jones Junior, and fighting the weakest opponent and then gonna move up to welterweight and successfully avoid all the danger fighters at 140lb.

Dont you ever put Roy Jones Jr and GAtti in the same sentence. He is fighting Mayweather is he not. He fought De La Hoya he fought Rodriguez, Ward and a bunch of others at the top of the game.

Outside of Tzyu I would say with full confidence that Gatti has fought better opposition than Hatton.

martinwbc why are you killing yourself arguing with this guy? Seriously man, it ain't worth it. Do what the rest of us do and just ignore him.

Dont you ever put Roy Jones Jr and GAtti in the same sentence. He is fighting Mayweather is he not. He fought De La Hoya he fought Rodriguez, Ward and a bunch of others at the top of the game.

Outside of Tzyu I would say with full confidence that Gatti has fought better opposition than Hatton.
I didn't put Gatti in the same sentance as RJJ... What are you talking about?

Gatti is basically the Rodney Dangerfield of Boxing....No Respect.

http://myuseless-info.com/uf_116b.jpg

martinwbc why are you killing yourself arguing with this guy? Seriously man, it ain't worth it. Do what the rest of us do and just ignore him.
I think you maybe right Bombardier... ;)

Mckay... You seem like a nice enough kid, But I have to say... You know **** about boxing... :(

My Tyson weight logic is compeltely valid.

Tyson record below 220 pounds undefeated

Tyson record above 230 1-3

Why do you think Gayweather is so invinciable? He already lost to Castillo and got a gift descision. ;) .
again i have to agree

I think you maybe right Bombardier... ;)

Mckay... You seem like a nice enough kid, But I have to say... You know **** about boxing... :(

Your the one who is deluded. You totally underrate Gatti. You totally overrate Gayweather. And Bombadier is a wank. The guy is a member of my prestigious ignore list lying right next to Slipx.

Your the one who is deluded. You totally underrate Gatti. You totally overrate Gayweather. And Bombadier is a wank. The guy is a member of my prestigious ignore list lying right next to Slipx.
Ok Mckay... If you're so convinced... I'll bet you 20 million points that Mayweather beats Gatti.

A straight 50/50 bet. (I would feel a little bad because it's like taking candy from a baby... But you'll learn this way).

Ok Mckay... If you're so convinced... I'll bet you 20 million points that Mayweather beats Gatti.

A straight 50/50 bet. (I would feel a little bad because it's like taking candy from a baby... But you'll learn this way).

I will take that. You are going to be crying if this fight ever happens.

I will take that. You are going to be crying if this fight ever happens.
Well I don't know what the "If this fight ever happens" bit is about because they're fighting on the 25th June.

Put the bet in you signature.

I will wager 13 million points on it.

I will wager 13 million points on it.
ok... 13 million points is good... Put it in your signature.

I reckon I'm gonna be a comfortable winner!... ;)

ok... 13 million points is good... Put it in your signature.

I reckon I'm gonna be a comfortable winner!... ;)

Your reckoning is wrong.

LIke you know anything. The guy who sits there and has 30 post conversations with himself about where Mexico is and Costa Rica.


AS WE WELL KNOW THAT DOWN TO your cowardice sunshine when you deleted your posts.

**** youve got some front,.

and if i know nothing how come i write for the most repsected british website out there.

i think you will find its you that knows nothing you jumped up little coward.

you cant even stand by what you say.

YOU HAVE ZERO CREDIBILITY.

youre a coward.

Mayweather is easily the best at 140, no one will beat him there, I dont see floyd loosing a fight till he is at 147 or 154, and that might be a long time from now,

he lost the first castillo fight but christmas came early.

Your reckoning is wrong.
We'll see... ;)

You're gonna be 13 million points down if Gatti doesn't pull off a miracle!

AS WE WELL KNOW THAT DOWN TO your cowardice sunshine when you deleted your posts.

**** youve got some front,.

and if i know nothing how come i write for the most repsected british website out there.

i think you will find its you that knows nothing you jumped up little coward.

you cant even stand by what you say.

YOU HAVE ZERO CREDIBILITY.

youre a coward.

The guy is Internet scum, the kind of ******* who comes around to make trouble and has basically has nothing going for him and no reason to exist. Pity him cause he's got nothing better to do with his life than to stir up **** with a bunch of strangers...but otherwise ignore him.

i think mayweather has more of an aire of "prince" about him

hatton defronde the king there for he is now king i dont think that makes him the best in the devision but until sum one beats him and i think the only person able to do that is mayweather the the title goes to hatton
FACT

The guy is Internet scum, the kind of ******* who comes around to make trouble and has basically has nothing going for him and no reason to exist. Pity him cause he's got nothing better to do with his life than to stir up **** with a bunch of strangers...but otherwise ignore him.

totally agrtee dude, it made me larf when he was talking about his list of ignores and im like yeah bomBadier slipx, both know thier stuff and are good guys whom ive enjoyed talking to on here for a year or so..

so nuff said

but to sum it up

please visit this site


http://MACKAY.isagaylord.com/

TRUTH!!! :D

totally agrtee dude, it made me larf when he was talking about his list of ignores and im like yeah bomBadier slipx, both know thier stuff and are good guys whom ive enjoyed talking to on here for a year or so..

so nuff said

but to sum it up

please visit this site


http://MACKAY.isagaylord.com/

TRUTH!!! :D

hahaha, I thought you weren't being serious until I clicked on the link. Man, nothing get past the BBC :D .

I find it funny that I'm one the dude's ignore list yet RunWithKnives somehow missed the cut, when he was the one starting a thread wanting him banned. You know what's funny is that I never even talked to the guy and one day he came out all hostile at me...bottom line is he's too stupid to even keep track of who he's mad it.

i dont mind disagreeing but deleteing you own posts cos your being an asshoel to make someone else look bad is ****ing cowardly.

no respect for the bloke after that.

I did alright out of him... I just got a 50/50 13 million point bet on the winner of Gatti vs Mayweather, (AND I GOT MAYWEATHER!!!... LOL!).

Easy 13 million... Mckay doesn't know much about boxing... LOL!...

No one else on this site would give me a bet with those odds!

id pay 13 million for him and people like him to **** off. :D

bloke is a friggin nonce with no morals.


just off topic Martin,
shaolin is a bit upset with you dude, what you done to him he is a good guy really? check the lounge.

honest he is kool mate, think you two got your wires crossed.

id pay 13 million for him and people like him to **** off. :D

bloke is a friggin nonce with no morals.


just off topic Martin,
shaolin is a bit upset with you dude, what you done to him he is a good guy really? check the lounge.

honest he is kool mate, think you two got your wires crossed.

Good for you JPW!! Bravo..you found somebody actually converse with besides yourself, good for you indeed. Even If the rapport is dedictated to McKay hating.

And this was even funny http://MACKAY.isagaylord.com/

Seriously I cannot belive the hostility from some of you people just because of the fact I support Gatti.

Seriously I cannot belive the hostility from some of you people just because of the fact I support Gatti.
I dont hate on Gatti fans, I just see Mayweather going out there and beating him easily. Also I havent found a Gatti fan that wants to bet, do you wanna bet some points?

Seriously I cannot belive the hostility from some of you people just because of the fact I support Gatti.

i love gatti got a signed picture of him in my spare room with mickey ward.

my hostility is because you are an absolute cowardly ****.


nothing else.

I dont hate on Gatti fans, I just see Mayweather going out there and beating him easily. Also I havent found a Gatti fan that wants to bet, do you wanna bet some points?

I already bet the bulk of my points in a straight wager with martain.

I already bet the bulk of my points in a straight wager with martain.
Alright well If u wanna just put a mil on it i dont care, i just wanna make a bet on it and nobody is willing to take it

Alright well If u wanna just put a mil on it i dont care, i just wanna make a bet on it and nobody is willing to take it

Alright I will bet 1 million points in a straight wager on Gatti.

Two different fights involving different groups going on simutaneously in NSB and in the lounge...a first, I believe.

Alright I will bet 1 million points in a straight wager on Gatti.

K 1 mil it is, ill put it on my sig so i dont forget

i love gatti got a signed picture of him in my spare room with mickey ward.

my hostility is because you are an absolute cowardly ****.


nothing else.

You really like to bear grudges over nothing dont you. :rolleyes:

yes but only to cowards and hypocrites not people i happen to disagree with.

though you showed your cowardice and true colours by deleting your posts to make me look stupid.

classless little prick.

i would have no grudge if you stood your ground and just disagreed.


but you my boy, are a yellow peice of **** oh and by the way you brought up the whole "talking to myself thing".

no one else.

buyt you just ****ed yourself in the arse didnt you.

yes but only to cowards and hypocrites not people i happen to disagree with.

though you showed your cowardice and true colours by deleting your posts to make me look stupid.

classless little prick.

i would have no grudge if you stood your ground and just disagreed.


but you my boy, are a yellow peice of **** oh and by the way you brought up the whole "talking to myself thing".

no one else.

buyt you just ****ed yourself in the arse didnt you.

I cant belive you are still so wound up about this. It is true. I deleted the posts on purpose to make you look ridiculous, to make it look like you were talking to yourself. I did it because it was amusing to me. But however I think you take things way to seriously. You were taking things way to seriously on that thread as well. Maybe you should lighten up a bit.

Gatti's level of competition is terrible for a WBC champion...

I've seen Gianluca Branco fight a few times on Eurosport and he's not really a very good fighter... yet he took Gatti to a close points descion.

James Leija is OLD OLD and tired... As is Leonard Dorin...



Martin let me remind you that Gatti injured his hand in the 5th round of the Branco, he didnt quite break it but 6 months before Gatti did break his hand in the 3rd Ward fight and he reinjured his right hand against branco. So that would mean Gatti won 2 consecutive fights w/ only his left. Very Courageous and impressive.

And as a side note - with the past2 weeks in boxing w/ Kosysta quitting, Tyson quitting and Abdulleve quitting against Cotto. I guarantee the is no quit in Gatti come June 25th. And for that reason alone a might feel sorry sorry for floyd........







....wait I dont feel sorry for em, crack floyds ****in
dome Gatti!

Martin let me remind you that Gatti injured his hand in the 5th round of the Branco, he didnt quite break it but 6 months before Gatti did break his hand in the 3rd Ward fight and he reinjured his right hand against branco. So that would mean Gatti won 2 consecutive fights w/ only his left. Very Courageous and impressive.

And as a side note - with the past2 weeks in boxing w/ Kosysta quitting, Tyson quitting and Abdulleve quitting against Cotto. I guarantee the is no quit in Gatti come June 25th. And for that reason alone a might feel sorry sorry for floyd........







....wait I dont feel sorry for em, crack floyds ****in
dome Gatti!
I'm not sure what this bit at the bottom of your post means? :confused:

I just think that my 13 million points bet - (in my signature) is the safest bet I've made in a while. ;)

Hey man, this june nobody is safe as we are seeing. So I wouldnt sleep too good at night, but whatever. But the translation from the bottom of my post simply put is hit floyd in the head and KO him...oh word!?

I cant belive you are still so wound up about this. It is true. I deleted the posts on purpose to make you look ridiculous, to make it look like you were talking to yourself. I did it because it was amusing to me. But however I think you take things way to seriously. You were taking things way to seriously on that thread as well. Maybe you should lighten up a bit.


maybe you should apologise.

maybe you should apologise.

I think you should apologize for being such a tightass. I am never apologizing to you now. You took this grudge way to far, a grudge that is based on a harmless joke.

**** off again you are telling lies.
you were being an ass on the threead then you deleted your posts.

i want everoyne to know what a cowardly little **** you are.

i was actually discussing things with you sensibly then you went on the attack.

as normal with you i understand.

then fine you cant be big enough to say sorry expect me to shoot you down every time i can be bothered then.

believe me this is nothing coward boy.

takes 2 simple words but you aint even man enough to do that, like you werent man enough to stand by your lame assed posts.

twat.

Hey man, this june nobody is safe as we are seeing. So I wouldnt sleep too good at night, but whatever. But the translation from the bottom of my post simply put is hit floyd in the head and KO him...oh word!?
I agree... Mayweather is very beatable, but I don't think Gatti will be the one to do it.

And anyways I'm in a win win situation. If Mayweather wins, I get 13 million points... If Gatti wins, then I'll be happy that Gatti knocked out Mayweather, and I won't feel so bad about losing 13 million points.

;)

**** off again you are telling lies.
you were being an ass on the threead then you deleted your posts.

i want everoyne to know what a cowardly little **** you are.

i was actually discussing things with you sensibly then you went on the attack.

as normal with you i understand.

then fine you cant be big enough to say sorry expect me to shoot you down every time i can be bothered then.

believe me this is nothing coward boy.

takes 2 simple words but you aint even man enough to do that, like you werent man enough to stand by your lame assed posts.

twat.

First off what lies are you referring too? You were doing this same **** on the other thread. Apologize to McKay, apologize to me McKay. It is f***ing stupid. There actually 2 reasons why I delted the posts on that thread. 1 was to make you look stupid. 2 was to disengange from the entire argument because it was a waste of time. I even said on the thread " I cant believe how much time I have wated with you on this."

Now I want an apology not only for you being a tightass twat but also for calling me a "twat, coward, etc..."

You have probably been bearing a grudge against me for monthes and just finally now you have chosen a front to combat me on.

but that is what you are.
if you cannto see that deleting posts to make someone look stupid is a cowardly act then it is you that is that are stupid.

whatever tithead you started something you cant finish.

you ****ed up.

the fact ive had 3 sets of karma on my posts in this thread with comments such as "mackay is a waste of time" or "agree with you"

says enough.

you need to take a long look at yourself sonny jim.
stop playing games and grow up.

until you do expect me to be on your case.

everyday. then maybe you will learn a lesson and stop being sucha dick.

sand this is all stuff id say to your face.

i doubt you'd have the balls to the same. then agian we know youre a little yellow ****.

you pissed the worng fella off i can assure you.

Are u gona take the bet or not Thunder boy?

but that is what you are.
if you cannto see that deleting posts to make someone look stupid is a cowardly act then iyt is you that is that are stupid.

whatever tithead you started something you cant finish.

you ****ed up.

the fact ive had 3 set sof karma on my posts int he this thread with comments such as "mackay is a waste of time" or "agreee with you"

says enough.

you need to take a long look at yourself sonny jim.
stop playing games and grow up.

until you do expect me to be on your case.

everyday.

It has never been goal of mine to win any popularity contests around here amongst the likes Bombadier and others. I just try to have fun with this board, I was having fun on that post. Now look what has become of my harmless joke. Like I said, you seriously need to lighten up. And if anybody should apologize for anything it is you for your unwarranted insults against me.

nothing unwarranted you did something cowardly not funny.

you have no morals and are a disgrace.

end of story really.

nothing unwarranted you did something cowardly not funny.

you have no morals and are a disgrace.

end of story really.

I have alot of morals and priniciple actually. If anybody is lacking something it is you. And what you are lacking is a sense of humor.

It has never been goal of mine to win any popularity contests around here amongst the likes Bombadier and others. I just try to have fun with this board, I was having fun on that post. Now look what has become of my harmless joke. Like I said, you seriously need to lighten up. And if anybody should apologize for anything it is you for your unwarranted insults against me.

Does this mean I'm one of the cool kids? Ohmygod my high-school dreams are coming true 10 years after the fact!

hahahaha

I have alot of morals and priniciple actually. If anybody is lacking something it is you. And what you are lacking is a sense of humor.

well start acting like it then., so far you have acted in a cowardly manner, lied and generally been an arsole.

and you think i dont have a sense of humour cos you are about as funny as getting a dose of syphyllis.

in fact thats less irritating.

Skill wise, Mayweather is on a different level than Hatton.


Thats just not true, skill is someone's ability to do something very well. Mayweather has a very tactical style(which is often called skill) but that doesnt mean his style is more effective than Hattons. Hattons defensive ability often gets overlooked because he's such an agressive fighter, in the same way the young Mike Tysons did.

IMO Mayweather is the P4P king but naturally Mayweather shouldnt even be fighting at 140, so until he has a meaningful fight at the weight he cant be considered for the top spot in the divison. If he beat Gatti then its up for debate but Hatton is currently number 1 at 140.

Gatti can beat maywether if Gatti slugs it out like Hatton did to Zoo.
Mayweather likes a slow paced fight so he can use the left shoulder and leave his right hand high. He'll get exposed in a slugfest with his style. In a slugfest Roger has to drop the right hand to throw punches and that is leaves open his biggest weakness in his style, an exposed rightside jaw.


mayweather is one of the top p4p fighters in the world and its for a reason he knows that a slugfest is the only chance gatti has to beat him and he is not stupid enough to get into that type of fight mayweather's speed and boxing skills is what will win him the fight with gatti , although gatti always has a punchers chance i just don't see mayweather getting close enough to get caught with anything ..

Hattons the king of 140, Mayweathers biggest fight to date at weight is going to be Gatti.

Right now, there is no King of 140. Yeah, Hatton beat a faded Tszyu, but just because you beat the man doesn't necessarily make you the man. Until there is a unification bout between all the belt-holders, then there can be a King of 140.

The king of 140 is Hatton; he beat the king. He's the king.

Right now, there is no King of 140. Yeah, Hatton beat a faded Tszyu, but just because you beat the man doesn't necessarily make you the man. Until there is a unification bout between all the belt-holders, then there can be a King of 140.

There are only other belt holders because of KT's injury. Hatton's top dog until someone else proves otherwise.

What injury?

What injury?

The one that kept him out of action for 2 years, shoulder I think.

There are only other belt holders because of KT's injury. Hatton's top dog until someone else proves otherwise.

To say that Hatton's the king of 140 is a gross overstatement. Was Buster Douglas the man after he beat Tyson?

To say that Hatton's the king of 140 is a gross overstatement. Was Buster Douglas the man after he beat Tyson?

The thing that makes 140 so special is that there is no man of the division right now

They're all fighting for it...

Hattons style was just perfect to beat Tszyu, I see others beating Hatton..

To say that Hatton's the king of 140 is a gross overstatement. Was Buster Douglas the man after he beat Tyson?
Yes he was the man... The same way Hasim Rahman was after he beat Lennox Lewis!

You beat the champion and take his belt... You're the man! {fullstop} - (Even if it was a lucky punch.;))

Yes he was the man... The same way Hasim Rahman was after he beat Lennox Lewis!

You beat the champion and take his belt... You're the man! {fullstop} - (Even if it was a lucky punch.;))

I dont think Tszyu was the man in the first place...

To say that Hatton's the king of 140 is a gross overstatement. Was Buster Douglas the man after he beat Tyson?

Yes, although most (me included) thought Tyson still was as he was grossly under-prepared for the fight and would kill him in a rematch. The same doesn't apply to Tszyu and Hatton.

I dont think Tszyu was the man in the first place...


Apart from the Phillips loss, Tszyu's been top dog for 10 years.


Right now, there is no King of 140. Yeah, Hatton beat a faded Tszyu, but just because you beat the man doesn't necessarily make you the man. Until there is a unification bout between all the belt-holders, then there can be a King of 140.

Faded Tszyu?? :confused: he was considered unbeatable until Hatton got in the ring with him.

Hatton's the only champion who won the belt by beating a champ, all the other fighters are paper champs because they faced hand picked opponents in a title match. Hurtardo, Branco and Pinto are B level opponents, i'd go as far as to say Branco isnt even B level. Winning a belt that way is OK as long as you defend it against an elite fighter and the only person who's going to do that in the near future is Gatti.

Hatton is the king at 140, there's no doubt about that, the only question is can he successfully defend against the all the other brilliant fighters at the weight.

i'm gonna hve to say hatton just cause he beat zoo and zoo was the only guy at 140 to have several big wins in the division... floyd hasn't really beaten anyone yet at 140, neither really has gatti, harris beat urkal and hurtado, cotto beat abby...

Hatton is. Hatton beat Tzyu the man who ruled the 140 lbs division for a decade. It does not matter what potentential or anything else Mayweather or Cotto have. Tzyu was the man in this weight class for a decade. Former undisputed champion, went through all contenders like Mitchell Judah etc... Hatton beat him, that makes him for sure the king of 140 lbs until somebody beats him.

Until somebody beats Hatton he is number I at 140 pounds. Hatton is the linear Champion. Everybody else in the division that has belts has them because Tzyu vacated them.

I have to agree, to be the man, you have to beat the man. Hatton beat Tzyu, he is now the man.

Gattin beat Dorin easily and Dorin wasn't shot. If anything Dorin was rusty, but well rusted and not shot. Basically, if Gatti was shot, he would have looked it already, and he has not. He's past his prime, but not shot. No evidence to support that. If he loses to Floyd it's cuz Floyd is better, not cuz he's shot.

Anyway, Hatton is the king of 140 until he is beaten, plain and simple. Hatton would tear Cotto a new ******* in my opinion, but it would be a great fight until Cotto is TKO'd.

My Tyson weight logic is compeltely valid.

Tyson record below 220 pounds undefeated

Tyson record above 230 1-3

Why do you think Gayweather is so invinciable? He already lost to Castillo and got a gift descision. And in my opinion Gatti is better than Castillo.


Gatti is better than Jose Luis Castillo ?

That is some bull**** right there. Arturo Gatti has spent his career avoiding guys like Castillo !
His fight with Floyd is the only time ( except for the Oscar fight....& my mother would fight Oscar- knowing the $$$ to be made)Arturo Gatti has ever stepped up.

Castillo does NOTHING BUT step up !

You match them at 135, & Gatti would take a career ending beating.

Hatton is the man, since he beat the top dog.Next is Gayweather.

The king at 140, will be Floyd Mayweather Jr. there is no fighter in the division I would pick over him

The king at 140, will be Floyd Mayweather Jr. there is no fighter in the division I would pick over him
I dunno if he will be... I think he's too small for 140lbs and he's playing with the big boys now.

If Hatton was able to walk through Tszyu's best shots, then there is no doubt at all he'll walk through anything Mayweather can throw at him.

He'll get close to Mayweather and Hammer the body! And Hatton will throw Mayweather around the ring like a rag doll in a clinch.

I just can't see Mayweather winning a fight against Hatton.

Don't get me wrong, I think Mayweather is probably the most skillfull boxer out there at the moment... But he's not gonna be able to handle a young, hungry, strong, fully loaded 140lber the way he's dealt with 130lbs/135lbs fighters before.

Beating an shop worn fighter like Gatti is one thing... But beating a 26yr old Champion like Hatton is quite another.

The King right now is Hatton...

Gatti is better than Jose Luis Castillo ?

That is some bull**** right there. Arturo Gatti has spent his career avoiding guys like Castillo !
His fight with Floyd is the only time ( except for the Oscar fight....& my mother would fight Oscar- knowing the $$$ to be made)Arturo Gatti has ever stepped up.

Castillo does NOTHING BUT step up !

You match them at 135, & Gatti would take a career ending beating.

Exactly,Castillo is a better,World Class version of Micky Ward.Castillo would break Gatti down and finish him late.

hatton atm is number 1 just cause he beat zoo, but floyd is fighting gatti and both are top guys so the winner of that fight will be number 1

Truthfully I would not bet on this fight even if I was given dream odds. Mayweather just like before the Tyson vs Douglas upset has a number of personal issues distracting him with a hungry fighter in Gatti looking to make a huge payday on his ass. And as we all know, this is boxing, and Gatti does have KnockOut power. This is the kinda fight were everyone says Mayweather, but in reality; especially after watching Roy Jones jr fall and the upset landslide that has followed, would you bet your house on it?

Truthfully I would not bet on this fight even if I was given dream odds. Mayweather just like before the Tyson vs Douglas upset has a number of personal issues distracting him with a hungry fighter in Gatti looking to make a huge payday on his ass. And as we all know, this is boxing, and Gatti does have KnockOut power. This is the kinda fight were everyone says Mayweather, but in reality; especially after watching Roy Jones jr fall and the upset landslide that has followed, would you bet your house on it?
i kno im late but nicely said!

Hatton is the champion anyways. Floyd can become king if he beats him.

Hatton is. Hatton beat Tzyu the man who ruled the 140 lbs division for a decade. It does not matter what potentential or anything else Mayweather or Cotto have. Tzyu was the man in this weight class for a decade. Former undisputed champion, went through all contenders like Mitchell Judah etc... Hatton beat him, that makes him for sure the king of 140 lbs until somebody beats him.

Until somebody beats Hatton he is number I at 140 pounds. Hatton is the linear Champion. Everybody else in the division that has belts has them because Tzyu vacated them.
I agree with McKay

AS WE WELL KNOW THAT DOWN TO your cowardice sunshine when you deleted your posts.

**** youve got some front,.

and if i know nothing how come i write for the most repsected british website out there.

i think you will find its you that knows nothing you jumped up little coward.

you cant even stand by what you say.

YOU HAVE ZERO CREDIBILITY.

youre a coward.



I think it is you that are mistaken about a great many things.

Hatton will be #1 till the day he's defeated...

hatton beat the king so Hatton is the King there should be no question