[doom_specialist]

To your second post, no I would not give either the same credit, because neither opponent was special. Again, Trinidad was a reigning MW champ (and had been out of the welterweight division for YEARS, despite you trying to make it as if he just jumped to 160 from 147), P4P #2, and favored to beat Hopkins. The guys you mentioned were both massive underdogs, not P4P by any stretch of the imagination, and hadn't even campaigned at MW. Nowhere near the same case, and shows that you're mixing apples and oranges for the sake of an argument (especially after you tried to criticize me for mixing apples and oranges, when I gave a perfectly valid example of a smaller man being a dangerous option for a bigger man). BTW thanks for giving red to a valid comment because you were mad about the dumb one you made lol. No matter how much you don't like it, size does NOT determine fight outcomes.

Would you have given Hagler the same credit you give Leonard for beating him, had Hagler won?