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Old 05-22-2020, 11:45 PM #1
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This was recorded only less than a year ago... Even ranking him higher on the P4P scale than Fraud Jr.

For all you young guns that just started watching boxing when Fraud Jr. and Pac went at it, you might want to dig into Pac's archive in early 2000s. Exciting fights. Dominating brutal performances. Those were the days that Pac had the "killer instinct" as everyone claims he lost nowadays. I don't think he lost anything. He just moved up in weight and lost 1 punch KO power. WW has never been his natural weight or best weight, period.
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:06 AM #2
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Manny's awesome but he's not the best P4P ever. I don't know if he's better than Fraud because they didn't fight in their respective prime(s).
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:09 AM #3
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Imagine if Ali didn't vanquish Foreman & Frazier. If Leonard didn't get Duran & Hearns. Would they still be the best of their era?

manny failed to convincingly beat his two biggest foes. Matter fact they both beat manny very clearly, and he didn't avenge neither of these losses.

manny isn't even the best/greatest of the era he was in let alone better than SRR & Greb.

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Old 05-23-2020, 12:25 AM #4
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Imagine if Ali didn't vanquish Foreman & Frazier. If Leonard didn't get Duran & Hearns. Would they still be the best of their era?

manny failed to convincingly beat his two biggest foes. Matter fact they both beat manny very clearly, and he didn't avenge neither of these losses.

manny isn't even the best/greatest of the era he was in let alone better than SRR & Greb.
- -That why Manny set every Ring p4p record known in the history of those rankings?

As a hostile Arum promoted fighter in a Goldenboy magazine?

While an elected member of the Philippine Congress?

Put U dentures in U stupid noggin if U gonna if U want some bite with U stupid!
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:28 AM #5
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The majority of people/fans/expert/boxers would disagree. In fact i would say it's embarrassing that you value Kellerman's opinion so much.
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:29 AM #6
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Anyone who isn't bias will agree. Just look at pac achievements it's unbelievable..

8 division champion
5 division lineal champion
4 decade champion
Oldest welterweight champion
Flyweight champion upto jr. Middleweight champion
Youngest flyweight champion

No one in the history has done it and pac achirved it ALL. So ****ing crazy amazing incredible unbelievable.
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:32 AM #7
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And this is coming from one of floyd nuthugger. It's a testament of how unbelievable pac is.
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:33 AM #8
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- -That why Manny set every Ring p4p record known in the history of those rankings?

As a hostile Arum promoted fighter in a Goldenboy magazine?

While an elected member of the Philippine Congress?

Put U dentures in U stupid noggin if U gonna if U want some bite with U stupid!
What nonsense. Mayweather has beaten the most P4P fighters and is the only P4P #1 to retire undefeated. Pacquiao was the Scottie Pippen of the Mayweather era. Mayweather elevated Pacquiao, but Pacquiao was and will always be in his shadow, a level below.
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:39 AM #9
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- -That why Manny set every Ring p4p record known in the history of those rankings?

As a hostile Arum promoted fighter in a Goldenboy magazine?

While an elected member of the Philippine Congress?

Put U dentures in U stupid noggin if U gonna if U want some bite with U stupid!
queerfairy thinks being a congressman makes manny a better boxer

ah you goofy dunce
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:26 AM #10
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I think no boxer in the past to present and even in the future can even come close to become 8 division champion.
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