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Old 06-24-2019, 02:37 PM #1
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Default Is spence more scared of Crawford than khan is of brook?

Is spence delusional in thinking hes worth more than he really is or is he just putting up more roadblocks to stay away from crawford? Remember his other excuses with "let me clean my side of the street" when he was fighting the lo grecos of the world lol
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Is spence delusional in thinking hes worth more than he really is or is he just putting up more roadblocks to stay away from crawford? Remember his other excuses with "let me clean my side of the street" when he was fighting the lo grecos of the world lol
Spence has been in a PPV that has sold more than Crawford's PPV's have combined so I think it's reasonable that Crawford want the bigger cut. Now many will argue it is Mikey that sold those PPV's but there is no way we can know that for sure.

I believe Spence/Porter is now going to PPV. WHen the numbers come back, if Spence can maintain or exceed the number he had with Mikey, then it's clear his position is reasonable. If however the numbers drop and he brings in the same as Crawford, then he should just split 50/50 and make the fight.

Usually you have no issue with the fighter who has sold more asking for the bigger cut. Spence is with Haymon so you are taking a different position. Why is it that you have a different standard when the PBC/Haymon affiliated boxer is proven to be the bigger draw?
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Spence has been in a PPV that has sold more than Crawford's PPV's have combined so I think it's reasonable that Crawford want the bigger cut. Now many will argue it is Mikey that sold those PPV's but there is no way we can know that for sure.

I believe Spence/Porter is now going to PPV. WHen the numbers come back, if Spence can maintain or exceed the number he had with Mikey, then it's clear his position is reasonable. If however the numbers drop and he brings in the same as Crawford, then he should just split 50/50 and make the fight.

Usually you have no issue with the fighter who has sold more asking for the bigger cut. Spence is with Haymon so you are taking a different position. Why is it that you have a different standard when the PBC/Haymon affiliated boxer is proven to be the bigger draw?
Lmao cmon man use some common sense. So you think spence-postol or spence-khan would have sold more than they did with crawford? Mickey was the drawing power and spencers next fight is gonna prove it
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Spence and Crawford both want the fight but it’s not realistically going to happen till next year.

This fanboy sh** is pathetic man.
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Spence and Crawford both want the fight but itís not realistically going to happen till next year.

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This fight isnt happening. It's clear spencer doesnt want it. The fanboy is you for not wanting to see the truth
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Lmao cmon man use some common sense. So you think spence-postol or spence-khan would have sold more than they did with crawford? Mickey was the drawing power and spencers next fight is gonna prove it
Unless you have definitive proof that MIkey drove the PPV sales, there is nothing to really discuss. You already made a thread earlier where you blamed "Haymon boys" for PED use. In your rant, you didn't name one Haymon associated fighter that had tested positive. You are not exactly a trustworthy source.

None of us know what would've happened so there is no sense speculating. Those fights were then, this fight is now. Spence has a much higher profile now then Crawford did when he fought those fights.

I do agree Spence's next fight will give more insight. If the numbers remain constant or go up we can fairly conclude Spence is a draw. If they drop, then we conclude Mikey drove sales and then do 50/50 and make the fight.
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Spence and Crawford both want the fight but it’s not realistically going to happen till next year.

This fanboy sh** is pathetic man.
Yeah if Crafword was with PBC and Spence with Arum, he'd be blaming Crawford.
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Unless you have definitive proof that MIkey drove the PPV sales, there is nothing to really discuss. You already made a thread earlier where you blamed "Haymon boys" for PED use. In your rant, you didn't name one Haymon associated fighter that had tested positive. You are not exactly a trustworthy source.

None of us know what would've happened so there is no sense speculating. Those fights were then, this fight is now. Spence has a much higher profile now then Crawford did when he fought those fights.

I do agree Spence's next fight will give more insight. If the numbers remain constant or go up we can fairly conclude Spence is a draw. If they drop, then we conclude Mikey drove sales and then do 50/50 and make the fight.
Definitive proof? Dude its common sense. This is hilarious lmao
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Definitive proof? Dude its common sense. This is hilarious lmao
Apparently Spence coming out dressed as a Mexican national wasnt enough.
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Definitive proof? Dude its common sense. This is hilarious lmao
Here is a response from another thread:

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...4#post19855214

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I don't disagree with you either my friend...someone else had a good point before that Mikey and Spence got similar numbers before that fight...and that it was also Mikey's first PPV fight. So no real evidence that I've seen to indicate it was all/mainly Mikey.

My personal opinion is that Mikey was really driving the sales...but I can't say that for certain...will be interested to see how well this one does if it is on PPV.

As another guy mentioned, if it doesn't really sell (maybe similar to Crawford-Khan) it does take away some of Errol's negotiating power...I guess seeing what Garcia-Garcia does on PPV will be a good barometer as well.
It was Mikey's 1st PPV as well as Spence. You are basically posting "Mikey is Mexican and Mexicans watch boxing more than African Americans so Mikey drove PPV sales".

Umm yeah that isn't valid. When you have something valid, get back to me. When we see the results of Garcia/Garcia and Spence/Porter we will have a better idea of who drove sales for Spence/Mikey.
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