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Old 05-27-2019, 10:53 PM #211
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So ESPN says Wilder is now the most popular heavyweight in the world. That is what happens when he continues to fight the best.

Eddie Hearn and AJ squandered the A Side playing games to no end. Fighting easy fights till they became tough matchups. Acting like the US couldnít tell the difference from reality and spin.

Now they are fighting Ruiz and all they can do is call for Wilder fight? What happened to AJís American debut? Somehow they are choosing not to effectively market it? Could it be Ruiz has no name? However Ruiz is dangerous enough so they better keep eyes to the prize.

Maybe they should have tried a bit harder to work with Ortiz. Instead of low-balling when the world knows they are in a real tight place. Billion dollars mismanaged is a problem. Dazn must really be on Hearns arse. My how the big mouthed, ****y and manipulative have fallen. This may be the biggest mismanagement of A/side power I have seen.

If I am Wilder the reality is here. Do the right thing as this nothing less than a 50/50 fight. However viewing should be split between Showtime and Dazn. They stuck by him he should be loyal to them.

If Eddie still wants to stick out his chest, fight Ortiz. Afterall who can AJ fight that brings the same attention and risk.

Congrats Wilder, the hard work paid off. Letís see the fight. But only if Hearn is finally ready to humble himself and accept the undeniable position.
What was the 500K that Wilder offered to Ortiz if the 7 Mill was a lowball?

Why has AJ sold over 17,000 tickets to Wilder selling just over 7,000 in Wilder's own country? And at 4 times the price.

Why do Showtime lose millions paying Wilder well over what he generates? Even then, he's getting under 10 Mill. AJ is getting 35 Mill. So how can it be a split of 50/50 on the money? You think this is sound business? Give me your best spin to make this make any kind of sense?

That is only Google searches in the US you fool. But AJ is selling more tickets at a much higher price in the US. So, where is this "Popularity" paying off?

The US is a mental asylum. All they do is spin and exist outside of reality. Trying to claim anything else is nothing but more spin and delusion.

Wilder is the one who takes easy fights. Ortiz only happened due to Haymon promising him the Wilder fight if he signed up with him. Wilder before that said he wouldn't fight him. Then the fight was signed and Wilder played a different tune hoping people wouldn't notice. Oh I noticed alright.

And he took on Fury while he was obese and in a mess because he thought he'd have a name while it was easy pickings. Still lost the fight though didn't he with a 50% version of Fury at the worst point in his career. Haha.

Ruiz is a replacement for your drug cheat Miller. They wanted Ortiz but he's caught the coward disease from being over there too long. Ruiz was the only one willing to fight. Although lets be fair, it was the life changing money that really did it. Not courage.

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Old 05-27-2019, 11:48 PM #212
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Difference is posters keep coming to me. Most have real point of view.

No body asked you emotional man fan. You are just trying to insert yourself into the discussion. No real points just perpetual false spin and name calling. We donít need you Sid Knee. We are doing fine without you.
You claimed I was obsessed when you posted more in this thread. You failed and made a fool out of yourself. Don't try and excuse yourself because you'll just make yourself look even sillier. If that's even possible.
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Old 05-28-2019, 12:25 AM #213
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Lol...You donít even believe this. Some of yíall just type to feel better.
I do believe it. Both should fight ASAP and have at least 2 fights but they stay ducking each other
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Old 05-28-2019, 04:57 AM #214
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Once again...

No just not going to do your research for you bumski. You still working on a blackberry pro?

Why is my internet so much better than yours. Just left the UK two weeks ago that WiFi was hummin and state side.

Why does yours only pick up Hearns comments? Man Fan losers kill me as it hurts your credibility not to have the whole story.

You are going to work for this discussion, like Takam working AJ before that fake stoppage

Research done Ortiz avoided AJ twice. Your lack of net neutrality must be affecting your info.
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Old 05-28-2019, 05:55 AM #215
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Research done Ortiz avoided AJ twice. Your lack of net neutrality must be affecting your info.
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Guess we have nothing to discuss because that was not Ortizís teamís side.

All good you donít have to be objective. Some just donít have that skill set...

The evidence is in, by coincidence, AJ is making demands on the best fighters that we donít see him making on the average fighters he is struggling with. And some how everyone else has fought 1-2 of the big four champions (Fury, Wilder, Ortiz AJ). Why hasnít AJ? Up till recently, he was the A-Side.

Doesnít matter Wilder and Fury have made him less relevant. Wilder is now the most popular boxer in the World per ESPN. And just like Keith Thurmon did with Spence, AJ squandered the A-Side Position not taking the fight at the height of his advantage.

As AJ just stated The Wilder fight is not happening until 2020. This ties perfectly into what he said the first time he ducked Wilder.

Just realize boxing is a sport first. And when fans allow athletes to make unconditional profits with out taking on the best you have watered down the era and each fighters legacy.

Thank GOD we didnít have fans like this at the time of Frazier and Ali fought. Imagine how much history we would have missed.

Keep trying to debate this champion into the history books. It hasnít worked yet. It is guaranteed, if AJ continues this image game, no one will care about him in 5-10 years. Just ask GGG...

Seems silly to try to posture ones way into the HOF, if you are the best why not just beat the guys in the ring?if you canít answer that question then you have no right to make the claim. Good day man fan.
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Old 05-28-2019, 05:58 AM #216
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If Wilder comes in the 220’s for the rematch, there won’t be a need for a third bout.
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Old 05-28-2019, 05:59 AM #217
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I do believe it. Both should fight ASAP and have at least 2 fights but they stay ducking each other
Thatís all the agreement we need bro. Letís see it, the fight needs to happen. No business bs should interfere with a fight completely ripe.
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Old 05-28-2019, 06:01 AM #218
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What was the 500K that Wilder offered to Ortiz if the 7 Mill was a lowball?

Why has AJ sold over 17,000 tickets to Wilder selling just over 7,000 in Wilder's own country? And at 4 times the price.

Why do Showtime lose millions paying Wilder well over what he generates? Even then, he's getting under 10 Mill. AJ is getting 35 Mill. So how can it be a split of 50/50 on the money? You think this is sound business? Give me your best spin to make this make any kind of sense?

That is only Google searches in the US you fool. But AJ is selling more tickets at a much higher price in the US. So, where is this "Popularity" paying off?

The US is a mental asylum. All they do is spin and exist outside of reality. Trying to claim anything else is nothing but more spin and delusion.

Wilder is the one who takes easy fights. Ortiz only happened due to Haymon promising him the Wilder fight if he signed up with him. Wilder before that said he wouldn't fight him. Then the fight was signed and Wilder played a different tune hoping people wouldn't notice. Oh I noticed alright.

And he took on Fury while he was obese and in a mess because he thought he'd have a name while it was easy pickings. Still lost the fight though didn't he with a 50% version of Fury at the worst point in his career. Haha.

Ruiz is a replacement for your drug cheat Miller. They wanted Ortiz but he's caught the coward disease from being over there too long. Ruiz was the only one willing to fight. Although lets be fair, it was the life changing money that really did it. Not courage.

You think they can split the site with an APP that is a monthly subscription platform? Yeah, you're f3cking stupid alright. Too dumb for words.
Lol... You lie as easily as a psychopath. You need help. Are you related to Hearn?
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Old 05-28-2019, 08:42 AM #219
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Guess we have nothing to discuss because that was not Ortizís teamís side.

All good you donít have to be objective. Some just donít have that skill set...

The evidence is in, by coincidence, AJ is making demands on the best fighters that we donít see him making on the average fighters he is struggling with. And some how everyone else has fought 1-2 of the big four champions (Fury, Wilder, Ortiz AJ). Why hasnít AJ? Up till recently, he was the A-Side.

Doesnít matter Wilder and Fury have made him less relevant. Wilder is now the most popular boxer in the World per ESPN. And just like Keith Thurmon did with Spence, AJ squandered the A-Side Position not taking the fight at the height of his advantage.

As AJ just stated The Wilder fight is not happening until 2020. This ties perfectly into what he said the first time he ducked Wilder.

Just realize boxing is a sport first. And when fans allow athletes to make unconditional profits with out taking on the best you have watered down the era and each fighters legacy.

Thank GOD we didnít have fans like this at the time of Frazier and Ali fought. Imagine how much history we would have missed.

Keep trying to debate this champion into the history books. It hasnít worked yet. It is guaranteed, if AJ continues this image game, no one will care about him in 5-10 years. Just ask GGG...

Seems silly to try to posture ones way into the HOF, if you are the best why not just beat the guys in the ring?if you canít answer that question then you have no right to make the claim. Good day man fan.

Keep trying to deflect biatch. Wilders on record saying AJ wants the fight now and he doesn't becuase he's got another path after or something, even uses words like AJ's begging for it.
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Also

"Team Luis Ortiz Reject Hearn's "Lowball Offer" To Face Joshua"

"After 5 days of BS we declined all of Hearnís lowball offers and we are tired of his games. " - Jorge Carmenate of Dade Promotions

https://www.boxingscene.com/team-lui...joshua--138278

"Ortiz, Trainer Angered Over Promoter's Handling of Joshua Talks"

"Still, the frustrating part on Ortizís end is his ďpromoterĒ not even allowing talks to reach that point." - Caicedo.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ortiz-tr...-talks--138385


Lol their defence is Hearn would have 'probably' sent a dodgey contract which is void when they admit their promoter stopped it getting that far.
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Old 05-28-2019, 09:02 AM #220
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Ortiz II?? Why on earth is Ortiz worth another shot?? He has done nothing, gotten older, looked WORSE,
ah oh yeh, i get it now......

What pathetic behaviour from a champion and people defend Widler lol

Man up Widler you fairy
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