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Old 10-11-2018, 09:03 PM #1
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Saudis preparing to admit Jamal Khashoggi died during interrogation, sources say


According to two sources, the Saudis are preparing a report that will acknowledge that Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi's death was the result of an interrogation that went wrong, one that was intended to lead to his abduction from Turkey.

One source says the report will likely conclude that the operation was carried out without clearance and transparency and that those involved will be held responsible.

One of the sources acknowledged that the report is still being prepared and cautioned that things could change.

The Washington Post columnist was last seen in public when he entered the Saudi consulate in Istanbul in Turkey on October 2. Previously, Saudi authorities had maintained Khashoggi left the consulate the same afternoon of his visit, but provided no evidence to support the claim. Khashoggi's fiancťe, Hatice Cengiz, who was waiting outside the consulate, says she did not see him re-emerge.
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The Turkish government has told U.S. officials that it has audio and video recordings that prove Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi was killed inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul this month, according to U.S. and Turkish officials.

The recordings show that a Saudi security team detained Khashoggi in the consulate after he walked in on Oct. 2 to obtain an official document before his upcoming wedding, then killed him and dismembered his body, the officials said.

The audio recording in particular provides some of the most persuasive and gruesome evidence that the Saudi team is responsible for Khashoggi's death, the officials said.

"The voice recording from inside the embassy lays out what happened to Jamal after he entered," said one person with knowledge of the recording who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss highly sensitive intelligence.

"You can hear his voice and the voices of men speaking Arabic," this person said. "You can hear how he was interrogated, tortured and then murdered."

A second person briefed on the recording said men could be heard beating Khashoggi.

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Saudis discussed plan to lure Jamal Khashoggi to Saudi Arabia, US intercepts show


The US has intercepts of Saudi officials discussing a plan to lure journalist Jamal Khashoggi back to Saudi Arabia and detain him, according to a US official familiar with the intelligence.

Khashoggi, a prominent Saudi journalist and critic of the regime, has been missing for more than a week after going to the Saudi consulate in Istanbul for an appointment that he had scheduled to obtain wedding papers. Turkish officials privately believe he was killed at the consulate, an allegation denied by Saudi Arabia, which says he left the consulate the day he arrived.

The official said it is unclear if the original plan was to murder Khashoggi or if something went wrong at the consulate and that he might have been killed during an attempt to kidnap him. Getting Khashoggi to the consulate appears to have been a backup plan, the source said, because he couldn't be persuaded to fly back to Saudi Arabia.

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Do you think the US should place sanctions on the Saudis for this?

He was a US resident, after all and freedom of expression is highly valued in the US.
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Do you think the US should place sanctions on the Saudis for this?

He was a US resident, after all and freedom of expression is highly valued in the US.
If the Saudi government is behind this, and more specifically who in the government, then we can talk about what the consequences should be. B if that's the case, then yes of course something must be done. But he is a permanent resident, not a US citizen, so let's see how this affects the severity.
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I heard that investigators searched the embassy. What did they do with his body? Did they pull a Walter White on him and dispose of the body with acid?
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I heard that investigators searched the embassy. What did they do with his body? Did they pull a Walter White on him and dispose of the body with acid?
They believed he was cut up and carried out of the embassy. Maybe they carried the pieces of his body back on the plane with them. It's believe that 15 Saudis that recently arrived in Turkey carried out the killing.
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A dubious audio recording of the event as no one can afford camera phones or have any CCTVs?
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A dubious audio recording of the event as no one can afford camera phones or have any CCTVs?
I just posted what was available. Will post more as new findings come out.
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