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Old 10-12-2017, 04:14 PM #1
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Default Greatest Latino fighters of all-time?

IMO -

1. Roberto Duran
2. Eder Jofre
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Carlos Ortiz
5. Kid Gavilan
6. Alexis Arguello
7. Ruben Olivares
8. Jose Napoles
9. Julio Cesar Chavez
10. Juan Manuel Marquez

11. Salvador Sanchez
12. Wilfredo Gomez
13. Kid Chocolate
14. Wilfred Benitez
15. Felix Trinidad
16. Carlos Zarate
17. Ricardo Lopez
18. Marco Antonio Barrera
19. Erik Morales
20. Panama Al Brown

Honorable mention: Pascual Perez, Vicente Saldivar, Miguel Canto, Luis Rodriguez, Antonio Cervantes, Eusebio Pedroza, Ismael Laguna, Roman Gonzalez,
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I don't really have a top 20 list but my top 5 would be something like:

1. Roberto Duran
2. Julio Cesar Chavez
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Carlos Ortiz
5. Alexis Arguello
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Old 10-12-2017, 06:10 PM #3
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Love Duran, but even the Mayweathers will tell you JC Chavez Sr is the best Latino fighter of all time! Roger says the best FIGHTER of all time. He even said he would beat Floyd Jr.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:59 PM #4
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I think Hector "Macho" Camacho deserves to be on your list.
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:14 PM #5
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I like Sanchez a little higher, perhaps. His career was cut short, so we do not have full information. Still, I might place him in the top 10 AT featherweights, because he had a style that was hard to deal with. Arguello had a complete career, so of course his career was greater. But it may be that Sanchez had the style to take him apart and avoid his big shots. I always felt that he probably would. No guarantees. Arguello had some trouble with angles, though, and Sanchez presented a lot of angles. That is only speculation. Arguello would still go above him on the list because of the full career and more information.

I believe Duran is the best Latino fighter of AT, if not the best fighter period P4P. Near universally recognized as the best lightweight ever, he never fought at 140, going right to 147. Even ballooned to 147, he arguably makes the top 10 AT at that weight. A tight squeeze, but maybe.

Duran vs Chavez in their primes is probably the most entertaining mythical matchup possible. Both men have all punches, and throw them constantly. Chavez could rip off triple lefhooks with perfect ease and naturalness, and he is among the best body punchers ever. I believe Duran hits a bit harder, which could be the small difference in the fight.

Against a straight ahead fighter like Chavez, would Duran appear more clever than generally given credit for, or would he simply relish the opportunity to collide and go to Viking war?
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IMO -

1. Roberto Duran
2. Eder Jofre
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Carlos Ortiz
5. Kid Gavilan
6. Alexis Arguello
7. Ruben Olivares
8. Jose Napoles
9. Julio Cesar Chavez
10. Juan Manuel Marquez

11. Salvador Sanchez
12. Wilfredo Gomez
13. Kid Chocolate
14. Wilfred Benitez
15. Felix Trinidad
16. Carlos Zarate
17. Ricardo Lopez
18. Marco Antonio Barrera
19. Erik Morales
20. Panama Al Brown

Honorable mention: Pascual Perez, Vicente Saldivar, Miguel Canto, Luis Rodriguez, Antonio Cervantes, Eusebio Pedroza, Ismael Laguna, Roman Gonzalez,
you consider bum marquez better than Morales? Even though he ducked him

You have bum marquez above Gomez and barrera?

Trinidad would stop the duck in under tree rounds
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Love Duran, but even the Mayweathers will tell you JC Chavez Sr is the best Latino fighter of all time! Roger says the best FIGHTER of all time. He even said he would beat Floyd Jr.
Floyd Jr. picked Duran as the #2: fighter all time. After him of course. LOL...
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I like Sanchez a little higher, perhaps. His career was cut short, so we do not have full information. Still, I might place him in the top 10 AT featherweights, because he had a style that was hard to deal with. Arguello had a complete career, so of course his career was greater. But it may be that Sanchez had the style to take him apart and avoid his big shots. I always felt that he probably would. No guarantees. Arguello had some trouble with angles, though, and Sanchez presented a lot of angles. That is only speculation. Arguello would still go above him on the list because of the full career and more information.

I believe Duran is the best Latino fighter of AT, if not the best fighter period P4P. Near universally recognized as the best lightweight ever, he never fought at 140, going right to 147. Even ballooned to 147, he arguably makes the top 10 AT at that weight. A tight squeeze, but maybe.

Duran vs Chavez in their primes is probably the most entertaining mythical matchup possible. Both men have all punches, and throw them constantly. Chavez could rip off triple lefhooks with perfect ease and naturalness, and he is among the best body punchers ever. I believe Duran hits a bit harder, which could be the small difference in the fight.

Against a straight ahead fighter like Chavez, would Duran appear more clever than generally given credit for, or would he simply relish the opportunity to collide and go to Viking war?
He'd box Chavez. I'm sure of that.
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:20 AM #9
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you consider bum marquez better than Morales? Even though he ducked him

You have bum marquez above Gomez and barrera?

Trinidad would stop the duck in under tree rounds
I get it. He ruined your life on December 8th, 2012 when he damn near killed Pacroid.

Yes, I do have him above those as you can see from my list your just being immature. He didn't duck Morales he always wanted those fights and was frozen out. Marquez was a clearly superior fighter to Tito (those are my two favorite boxers of all-time).

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I like Sanchez a little higher, perhaps. His career was cut short, so we do not have full information. Still, I might place him in the top 10 AT featherweights, because he had a style that was hard to deal with. Arguello had a complete career, so of course his career was greater. But it may be that Sanchez had the style to take him apart and avoid his big shots. I always felt that he probably would. No guarantees. Arguello had some trouble with angles, though, and Sanchez presented a lot of angles. That is only speculation. Arguello would still go above him on the list because of the full career and more information.

I believe Duran is the best Latino fighter of AT, if not the best fighter period P4P. Near universally recognized as the best lightweight ever, he never fought at 140, going right to 147. Even ballooned to 147, he arguably makes the top 10 AT at that weight. A tight squeeze, but maybe.

Duran vs Chavez in their primes is probably the most entertaining mythical matchup possible. Both men have all punches, and throw them constantly. Chavez could rip off triple lefhooks with perfect ease and naturalness, and he is among the best body punchers ever. I believe Duran hits a bit harder, which could be the small difference in the fight.

Against a straight ahead fighter like Chavez, would Duran appear more clever than generally given credit for, or would he simply relish the opportunity to collide and go to Viking war?
I love Sanchez. He's one of my favorites ever. I think he would have beaten Arguello and anywhere from 6-12 seems a fair ranking. We only saw him up until 23 which means we may have never saw his best and we also never saw his decline which every fighter must deal with. Had Tito not fought after May 12, 2001 he may rank in a much better light.

Sanchez had excellent skills and talent though. What a fighter.
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