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Old 06-03-2006, 03:02 PM #1
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Default scale the greats 1-10

scale boxers in these catagories from 1-10 ten being the best: speed power skill defense stamina chin and heart

first off my favorite mahummad ali
speed=10
power=6
skill=8.5
defense=5 not counting his relexes
stamina=9
chin=8.5
heart=9 maybe 8.5 but he sure was tough tho
this man i think is the greatest of all time he just exciting to watch and thats why hes my favorite

then joe louis my second favorite

speed=8.5
power=8.5 maybe 9
skill=10
defense=8
stamina=8
chin=7
heart=8
joe was one of the most complete fighters of all time

next is rocky maricano
speed=4.5
power=10
skill=6
defense=6
stamina=10
chin=8.7
heart=9
i think p4p the hardest hitter ever but what he lacked in skill made of up for it with his power and determination

Mike Tyson
speed=9
power=9
skill=8
defense=7.5
stamina=3 lol
heart=5
tho exciting to watch (probably most exciting boxer to watch of all time) he lacked the boxer mentality and toughness and heart maybe if his prime wasnt cut short he couldve been better

THIS IS MY OPINION!!!!! so feel to create your own scale with different or same boxers
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Old 06-03-2006, 03:09 PM #2
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scale boxers in these catagories from 1-10 ten being the best: speed power skill defense stamina chin and heart

first off my favorite mahummad ali
speed=10
power=6
skill=8.5
defense=5 not counting his relexes
stamina=9
chin=8.5
heart=9 maybe 8.5 but he sure was tough tho
this man i think is the greatest of all time he just exciting to watch and thats why hes my favorite

then joe louis my second favorite

speed=8.5
power=8.5 maybe 9
skill=10
defense=8
stamina=8
chin=7
heart=8
joe was one of the most complete fighters of all time

next is rocky maricano
speed=4.5
power=10
skill=6
defense=6
stamina=10
chin=8.7
heart=9
i think p4p the hardest hitter ever but what he lacked in skill made of up for it with his power and determination

Mike Tyson
speed=9
power=9
skill=8
defense=7.5
stamina=3 lol
heart=5
tho exciting to watch (probably most exciting boxer to watch of all time) he lacked the boxer mentality and toughness and heart maybe if his prime wasnt cut short he couldve been better

THIS IS MY OPINION!!!!! so feel to create your own scale with different or same boxers

obviously this cant be prime fighters cause if so i know u would have tyson's stamina alot higher then that maybe 9 cause he never tired with the work rate he did
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tyson would only last like 4 rounds after that he was done well u maybe right
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tyson would only last like 4 rounds after that he was done well u maybe right

if u think that in his prime your a ****in idiot.he lasted 12rounds throwing non stop in his prime.
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if u think that in his prime your a ****in idiot.he lasted 12rounds throwing non stop in his prime.
Prime Tyson's stamina was outstanding. Every punch he threw basically was a power shot, and he could do it for 12 rounds almost non stop, you are right.
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he lasted 12rounds throwing non stop in his prime.
You yourself might say that, Mystyal, but the compubox numbers from a couple of his twelve round fights suggest that he was doing anything but throwing "non stop" in those fights...26 punches per round versus Smith, and 34 punches per round versus Tucker suggest Tyson had a very low punch rate at heavyweight in his twelve round fights.

But he still had better stamina than what the hread starter is giving him credit for.
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Yeah, his stamina back then was excelent. He was the hardest working fighter in his prime, he worked harder than Evander Holyfield so a 3 is stupid.
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Yeah, his stamina back then was excelent. He was the hardest working fighter in his prime, he worked harder than Evander Holyfield so a 3 is stupid.
I agree.

Those compubox numbers mentioned above might come from the holding Tyson's opponents did.
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You yourself might say that, Mystyal, but the compubox numbers from a couple of his twelve round fights suggest that he was doing anything but throwing "non stop" in those fights...26 punches per round versus Smith, and 34 punches per round versus Tucker suggest Tyson had a very low punch rate at heavyweight in his twelve round fights.

But he still had better stamina than what the hread starter is giving him credit for.

when ppl ****in run from u and tie up its difficult to get your punches off. now i know u knew this yogi.think about it u cach the guy when running and u throw 2 punches then a tie up. what happened with the bone crusher fight. and tucker ran like a ***** from him no way u can get your punches of like that.

and for his punch rate he threw bombs on almost all of his punches. in my opinion u will get tired from throwing 30 bombs a round then throwing 100 slap shots a round. plus it was about stamina not punch output. even if he didnt throw that many punches for the obvious reason's he still didnt get tired he jus was only limited to throwing a few shots cause of runners and grabbers. i know exactly what mike went threw with that **** cause it frustrates me when sparring all the time
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You yourself might say that, Mystyal, but the compubox numbers from a couple of his twelve round fights suggest that he was doing anything but throwing "non stop" in those fights...26 punches per round versus Smith, and 34 punches per round versus Tucker suggest Tyson had a very low punch rate at heavyweight in his twelve round fights.

But he still had better stamina than what the hread starter is giving him credit for.
That doesnt say much about Tysons stamina in the later rounds. Bonehugging Smith kept holding him till the end, but if you look closely, you'll see Tyson was still as fresh as in the 1st round. Bouncing around, moving his head etc. That was just a dull fight. Against Tucker you could see his real stamina. He didnt look any diffirent than the early rounds, when he rocked Tucker in round 10 or 11(Might have to check when that was).
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