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Old 09-26-2012, 04:34 AM #21
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Garcia would fall victim to the "buddy mcgirt" effect.

I used to think Mcgirt was a **** trainer because his guys always lost. Dont get me wrong he still is a **** trainer because I dont see him giving any advice at all inbetween rounds other than to "drink some water baby" but looking at most of those fights, he almost always had the less skilled fighter who was expected to loose. Which makes sense because the lesser fighter had the cheaper trainer than say roach or steward. It didnt matter what Mcgirt said or did in training and during the fight because his guy was outclassed period.

Same for Chavez Jr, he is plain outclassed by Martinez and his bad and lazy training habits would have remained with him no matter what trainer he had this fight. Garcia isnt going to undo years of bad habits and magically give him defense and speed within 2 months.
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:36 AM #22
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It's not just Chavez and Arum smoking that kush.
You probably dont want Arum's kush. His cheap penny pinching ass has to have some real garbage quality weed. Probably cut with cooking parsley he bought at the dollar store.
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:53 AM #23
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Chavez was scared to trade, wtf is garcia gonna do to change that
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Old 09-26-2012, 05:33 AM #24
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It would not have mattered who was in the corner for Chavez..If he is in the ring with Martinez,he get;s an L...
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Old 09-26-2012, 06:45 AM #26
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chavez would have lost no matter who was in the corner..jcc jr just sucks!
True, because he wouldn't have listened to them anyway.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:41 AM #27
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Was he going to throw JCC Jr. a steel chair and distract the ref because that is about the only way him being in the corner would have made a difference.

Sometimes trainer can make a difference but I don't think JCC Jr.was trying to listen to anyone before this fight, maybe that is different now.
lmfao.....................
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:05 AM #29
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Garcia would fall victim to the "buddy mcgirt" effect.

I used to think Mcgirt was a **** trainer because his guys always lost. Dont get me wrong he still is a **** trainer because I dont see him giving any advice at all inbetween rounds other than to "drink some water baby" but looking at most of those fights, he almost always had the less skilled fighter who was expected to loose. Which makes sense because the lesser fighter had the cheaper trainer than say roach or steward. It didnt matter what Mcgirt said or did in training and during the fight because his guy was outclassed period.

Same for Chavez Jr, he is plain outclassed by Martinez and his bad and lazy training habits would have remained with him no matter what trainer he had this fight. Garcia isnt going to undo years of bad habits and magically give him defense and speed within 2 months.
"Bad News Buddy" is sh*te and I've seen him lose with the favored fighter many times as well.

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Old 09-26-2012, 09:53 AM #30
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JCC Jr. sucks so bad, Martinez should get no credit for winning that fight.

He beat a bum. So what?



Is that really what you are implying?...
Personally, I never called Chavez a bum, he's a Top 5 MW. However, it was a mismatch on paper, and Jr's lack of discipline made the fight much less competitive than what we were all expecting.
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