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Old 08-23-2012, 11:59 PM #11
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im wondering why he even mentioned Manny
alot of people hate on all 4 guys cause of their love for manny or mexican boxers
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:00 AM #12
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It all depends on how you rank P4P. Some rank it as achievements + dominance + potential. Many lower weight class fighters get overlooked. I find P4P ranking impossible to be accurate because of this.

If you look at the usual top lists, many belong in there, but more often than not, mostly all the fighters who get ranked the highest are also the one who receive the most media hype.

When you think about it, P4P lists are useless really
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:00 AM #13
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ayo real talk manny is still #2 on my p4p list
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:05 AM #14
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I believe Ward is #2 now but if Chad were to win I believe he will definitely be top 3. If Chad clearly beats Ward and Sergio looks like crap or loses to Chavez, I might move Chad to #2.
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:06 AM #15
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Aww come on, I think both guys are interchangeable. Example, if you put Ward #2 Dawson could be #3 or the other way around. That Pascal fight was bs and if would of loved to see Dawson rematch him if he wasn't tied up with Cloud. Maybe he will fight the winner. Both fighters have pretty much cleaned out their division, it's neither one of their fault that one division is stronger than the other.
I mean i like Dawson but he did lose to Pascal so that did set him back...if he beats Ward expecailly after dropping down he will have won 2 lineal titles in 1 year and that would be damn impressive and he should be p4p #2..i was just saying i think Ward should be #2 now..if Dawson beats him id have no issue with him being #2
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:08 AM #16
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ayo real talk manny is still #2 on my p4p list
Then your list is sh1t..cause no way in hell he is ranked over Donaire,Ward or Bradley....he lost and looked like sh1t against a 38 year old lightweight...keep it real man
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I mean i like Dawson but he did lose to Pascal so that did set him back...if he beats Ward expecailly after dropping down he will have won 2 lineal titles in 1 year and that would be damn impressive and he should be p4p #2..i was just saying i think Ward should be #2 now..if Dawson beats him id have no issue with him being #2
I think the top of the list needs some revamping. I think RIGHT NOW Ward could be #3 or 4 while Dawson being #5 or 6. Not sure why JMM is still #6 and Donaire #4. Now if Donaire beats Nishioka that's another story.
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Then your list is sh1t..cause no way in hell he is ranked over Donaire,Ward or Bradley....he lost and looked like sh1t against a 38 year old lightweight...keep it real man
ayo real talk manny just beat bradley homie and you know it.....donaire looked like sh1t against some no name jeff mahtebulu....ward's right behind manny at # 3
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ayo real talk manny just beat bradley homie and you know it.....donaire looked like sh1t against some no name jeff mahtebulu....ward's right behind manny at # 3
Manny lost man..and even if you wanna say he won then ok but he lost to Jmm then..he had 2 sh1t fights back to back and that aint p4p#2 material...pick your poison man he lost to either Bradley or Jmm
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only if dawson wins he should be p4p #3...if ward wins, no big deal , dawson went down in weight
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