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Old 12-14-2011, 01:42 PM #1
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...Beating Jake Lamotta 5 out of six times under the harsh conditions Robinson had to with giving up on average 15 lbs in weight?
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Old 12-14-2011, 03:04 PM #2
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Might catch hate for this but, I reckon he could come close, maybe losing 1 extra time.
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Old 12-14-2011, 03:57 PM #3
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I don't think so. Even if Leonard was as fast as Robinson he didn't have Robinson's punch.
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Old 12-14-2011, 04:28 PM #4
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I don't think so. Even if Leonard was as fast as Robinson he didn't have Robinson's punch.
How important do you think Robinsons punch was against Lamotta? I imagine in their fights he would have been using his speed and movement
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Might catch hate for this but, I reckon he could come close, maybe losing 1 extra time.
You shouldnt catch any hate. Leonard was one of the most immensely talented fighters of all-time. I think he wins 4 out of 6 as well.
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Old 12-14-2011, 06:13 PM #6
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i think the lamotta that fought cerdan beats the ray leonard that fought duran the first time

hard to say, leonard is a top shelf guy and can hang with anyone but in shape and motivated at 160 lamotta is a tall order. leonard wasn't as tall as ray, and jake was able to do the rough stuff in a smooth way its an interesting style match.

I think out of 6 fights most of the rounds would fast with boxing and slugging, moving all over the ring
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Old 12-14-2011, 08:43 PM #7
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How important do you think Robinsons punch was against Lamotta? I imagine in their fights he would have been using his speed and movement
At that weight, though, he didn't even incorporate that much movement compared to his welterweight days. If he was a big mover he wouldn't have got caught on the ropes like that. In retrospect that was really silly.

Against LaMotta Leonard didn't have the sufficient power too keep him off. Robinson had the power to completely stun him and even stop him. He was a legit puncher. Leonard was not.
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Old 12-14-2011, 08:59 PM #8
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The second Fullmer fight showed the monstrosity of Robinson's power. He hit super hard above his natural weight. Leonard, not so much.

At Middleweight, Leonard wasnt nearly a big enough puncher or a durable enough guy to sustain LaMottas body attack for 15 rounds. I think The Bull batters him around and wins more often than not. All by Decision because There was no quit in Ray Leonard.
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Ray Leonard would struggle with Lamotta at 160.

Ray would bang with him, he couldn't help himself most of the time.
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...Beating Jake Lamotta 5 out of six times under the harsh conditions Robinson had to with giving up on average 15 lbs in weight?
I don't think so. I actually think Hearns might have done better than Leonard but neither would duplicate what Robinson did.
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