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Old 11-16-2011, 01:29 PM #11
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1. Floyd Mayweather Jr

Hits: Even after 16 months out of the ring following his near shutout of Shane Mosley in May 2010, Mayweather returned to action on Sept. 17 and showed not the slightest bit of rust. Still fast and possessing great defense and underrated power, Mayweather knocked out Victor Ortiz (albeit in controversial fashion) in the fourth round to reclaim one of the titles he had previously given up. Now, instead of disappearing on another long layoff, Mayweather has announced plans to return on May 5, ideally against Manny Pacquiao -- if Pacquiao's people will come to the bargaining table.

Misses: It's great that Mayweather seems to be showing real interest in finally facing Pacquiao, but since Pacquiao just fought, how about giving him a little bit of time to unwind before insisting on a negotiation right now? Where was that kind of urgency at any point in the past few years?

2. Manny Pacquiao

Hits: Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez, who had already produced two memorable battles in featherweight and junior lightweight title bouts, met for the third time Nov. 12 and gave fight fans a worthy trilogy with another outstanding and highly competitive fight. With Pacquiao's victory, the path is wide open for him to at long last meet Mayweather in the fight the world wants to see.

Misses: Pacquiao, who was a massive favorite to beat Marquez because they were fighting at welterweight, looked as vulnerable as he has in a long time. Although he eked out a majority decision, few would have quarreled had Marquez gotten the win or had the fight been ruled a draw. Pacquiao looked confused at times and lacked snap on his punches in a less-than-stellar outing. It just wasn't the kind of performance we have come to expect from Pacquiao, especially in light of the fact that Marquez had been wiped out by Mayweather in 2009 in his only other welterweight fight. Although a fourth fight with Marquez is certainly warranted at some point, it absolutely should not be next, which is what Top Rank's Bob Arum, Pacquiao's promoter, is talking about pursuing. Mayweather should be next, and it's going to have to be up to Pacquiao to stand up to Arum and tell him to make a deal. Period.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...boxers-nos-1-3
I have it like this...

1.Sergio Martinez
2.Mayweather
3.Juan Manuel Marquez
4.Pac
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Old 11-16-2011, 01:39 PM #12
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1. Floyd Mayweather Jr

Hits: Even after 16 months out of the ring following his near shutout of Shane Mosley in May 2010, Mayweather returned to action on Sept. 17 and showed not the slightest bit of rust. Still fast and possessing great defense and underrated power, Mayweather knocked out Victor Ortiz (albeit in controversial fashion) in the fourth round to reclaim one of the titles he had previously given up. Now, instead of disappearing on another long layoff, Mayweather has announced plans to return on May 5, ideally against Manny Pacquiao -- if Pacquiao's people will come to the bargaining table.

Misses: It's great that Mayweather seems to be showing real interest in finally facing Pacquiao, but since Pacquiao just fought, how about giving him a little bit of time to unwind before insisting on a negotiation right now? Where was that kind of urgency at any point in the past few years?
Circa 2030

... And that's why Freddie Roach and Bob Arum avoided Floyd Mayweather like the bubonic plague and kept Many Pacquiao at a safe distance garnering Manny win after win while avoiding the best in the sport.
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Old 11-16-2011, 01:46 PM #13
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ESPN seem to be jumping on the bandwagon. But Pac is the p4p best fighter in the world. He didnt become p4p no1 on the strenghth of one fight, so shouldnt lose it on the strenght of one fight........a win at that.

Dont make Floyd more lazier than he already is. Dont give Floyd an excuse to fight once every 2 years. Make him work to be considered the best.
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Old 11-16-2011, 01:50 PM #14
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ESPN seem to be jumping on the bandwagon. But Pac is the p4p best fighter in the world. He didnt become p4p no1 on the strenghth of one fight, so shouldnt lose it on the strenght of one fight........a win at that.

Dont make Floyd more lazier than he already is. Dont give Floyd an excuse to fight once every 2 years. Make him work to be considered the best.
You are correct that it wasnt on one fight. It was more based on the fact that the true #1 P4P "retired" so he got the title by default.

Hurts doesnt it?
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Old 11-16-2011, 01:54 PM #15
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ESPN seem to be jumping on the bandwagon. But Pac is the p4p best fighter in the world. He didnt become p4p no1 on the strenghth of one fight, so shouldnt lose it on the strenght of one fight........a win at that.

Dont make Floyd more lazier than he already is. Dont give Floyd an excuse to fight once every 2 years. Make him work to be considered the best.
I see what you're saying, but many saw Mayweather and Pac P4P ranking on some 1A, 1B type shit at this point. So its easy for some to move either when one slips just a bit.
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Old 11-16-2011, 01:58 PM #16
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Pac is still #1 p4p with Ring Magazine which is all I care about.
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Old 11-16-2011, 01:59 PM #17
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You are correct that it wasnt on one fight. It was more based on the fact that the true #1 P4P "retired" so he got the title by default.

Hurts doesnt it?
No, when Floyd retired the rightful owner took the p4p position. It seemed floyd was kept at no1 on the basis that he was there before Pac, but the world knows Pac was the real king. Beating the likes of Morales, barrera, JMM trounced anything floyd had ever done.
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Pacquiao doesn't even deserve the number 2 spot, it's whatever though.
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Old 11-16-2011, 02:04 PM #19
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No, when Floyd retired the rightful owner took the p4p position. It seemed floyd was kept at no1 on the basis that he was there before Pac, but the world knows Pac was the real king. Beating the likes of Morales, barrera, JMM trounced anything floyd had ever done.
Then why is his P4P status so closely linked to Floyd..? It seems Pacs standing has a little too much to do with what Floyd is doing than what Manny has done. In this case its changing not based on what Pac did, but what he couldnt do against JMM. The same thing he couldnt do... again...
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OMG! A list based on hypothetical and Subjective context, having their own choice at Number one?!?

Say it ain't so?!
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