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View Poll Results: How hard did Marciano hit compared to Foreman, Liston, Shavers, Tyson
Harder than them all 2 10.53%
As hard as Foreman and Shavers, harder than Liston and Tyson 3 15.79%
Not quite Foreman and Shavers but harder than the rest 6 31.58%
Marciano's power is overarted he did not hit as hard as the above heavyweights 8 42.11%
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Old 06-13-2011, 04:25 PM #1
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Default How hard did Marciano hit compared to heavyweights like Foreman, Liston, Shavers

Some say his power is overrated, others say he was the hardest hitter of them all, i heard stories about his power able to lift 1000 pounds is there truth to this? in comparison to the heaviest hitters like Foreman Liston, Tyson and Shavers how hard did he hit
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Old 06-13-2011, 04:30 PM #2
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well he was markedly small for a HW champion


he had little arms, a small base, smallish bones (again, in HW champion terms)


he did, however, put everything humanly possible into his punches, so much so that he would literally throw himself to the ground when he got into the sport.


p4p i would say that he's a very hard puncher at the absolute least.
additionally, he was able to knock men out from round 1 to round 15, which tyson, shavers, and some of the other historic great HW punchers could not.


i would rank his power below the men you mentioned merely because of the size

im going off the top of my head, but i don't think rocky had a longer reach than 70 inches. i don't feel like looking it up, but it believe his reach was 68 inches. thats only an inch longer than pacquiao, four inches shorter than mayweather, about seven inches shorter than martinez, etc.
you just cant generate as much leverage and force with a body that small as you can with a body like liston, or foreman, with much longer arms, bigger shoulders, a wider base, more height for leverage, and obviously more weight to transfer

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Old 06-13-2011, 04:33 PM #3
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well he was markedly small for a HW champion


he had little arms, a small base, smallish bones (again, in HW champion terms)


he did, however, put everything humanly possible into his punches, so much so that he would literally throw himself to the ground when he got into the sport.


p4p i would say that he's a very hard puncher at the absolute least.
additionally, he was able to knock men out from round 1 to round 15, which tyson, shavers, and some of the other historic great HW punchers could not.


i would rank his power below the men you mentioned merely because of the size

im going off the top of my head, but i don't think rocky had a longer reach than 70 inches
you just cant generate as much leverage and force with a body that small as you can with a body like liston, or foreman, with much longer arms, bigger shoulders, a wider base, and more height for leverage.
Wouldnt small arms be a ind of advantage as you can throw short compact punches hard to avoid?
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He's there with Tyson and Liston approximately. Not quite as hard puncher as Shavers and Foreman, but not that far from them either.
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Wouldnt small arms be a ind of advantage as you can throw short compact punches hard to avoid?
in terms of punching power, in a word, no. a development of an understanding of punching power doesn't come overnight certainly.


bigger arms are associated with larger men, obviously
higher weight classes
etc.
harder punchers generally




think of it like bringing a bigger gun to a gunfight
or a larger stick to a stickfight

or sword to a swordfight

are you gonna do more damage winging a dagger around at your opponents breastplate or are you going to go at him with a two handed sword with some length and leverage?

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Old 06-13-2011, 04:50 PM #6
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He hit harder than Vitali for sure.

Not sure if hed make top 10 but definitely far above the average Heavyweight.
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Marciano had ROCKS for fists and could hurt u in any round as NE pointed out which is a huge advantage

Im no size whore but in truth his lack of it hurts him here, all the guys mentioned hit harder imo but p4p he might well best them all
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He had slightly bigger 1 punch power than Tyson. Shavers, liston and foreman got him beat though. He just wasn't big enough to hang with those giants in terms of pure power.
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Your poll choices make the flawed assumption that Shavers and Foreman hit harder than Liston. I'll give you Shavers, but Liston definitely hit harder than George in my book.
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Your poll choices make the flawed assumption that Shavers and Foreman hit harder than Liston. I'll give you Shavers, but Liston definitely hit harder than George in my book.
Why? a boxing commentator says that he had never seen anyone hit a heavy bag like Foreman including Sonny Liston and Big Georges knockouts just seem more devastating, could Liston take out Frazier the way Foreman did? he could but it wouldnt be as devastating or short in my opinion, maybe 3rd or 4th round.
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